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On Mon, 28 Oct 1996, Peter Heseltine <heseltin@hs*.us*.ed*> wrote:
>George,
>
>On Mon, 28 Oct 1996 gmiiii@in*.co* wrote:
>
>> but to somebody who gets back in a
>> cave and their scooter fails, not knowing how to do this is a death
>> sentence. The sad part of this is that for guys like me, who can likely
>> swim out, our scooters do not fail - it is the newer guys with the
>> off-the-shelf scooters who have this problem. You opoen water guy smay
>> want to learn this so you donot end up ditching an expensive scooter in
>> the ocean because you can not get it back to the boat.
>
>So, do you put the long hose over your back and risk it catching on
>something or do you put it between your legs? Does your buddy clip onto
>you, to your scooter or neither?
>
Pete, you are talking about an air failure , not a scooter failure, or
both.
this is very important:
1) never ditch a working scooter - you may need it. The guy sharing air tows
his scooter.
2) the donee takes the reg, gets behind the tower. The reg hose runs down
behind the wings like it originally was, only it now comes across the chest of
the donee, around his head, and into his mouth just like his own would. This
keeps the slop out of the hose , keeps it from getting caught on anything, and
leaves enough slack to not yank it out of the donee's mouth if they suddenly
hit
the ceiling or something.
3) the towee holds the crotch strap of the tower, and keeps his head down
for
less drag.
This is another reason we do not use those bullshit Dive Rite harnesses that
have a plastic quick disconnect - only somebody who knows absoutelely nothing
about serious cave diving would show this lack of forsight or experience,
especially when if it breaks you can no longer scooter, but then what would you
expect.
By the way, Lamar Hires is running around telling everyone he will do a
20,000 foot cave dive in Wakulla, and that depth does not matter with a
rebreather. I suggest he wake up and quit trying to insult the WKPP, and that
he
try 200 feet in deep cave first , or any fraction of what we regularly do at
any
any depth he choses, and then I recommend to him and the rest of his blowhards
that until they are willing to put more than one tenth of what I put into this
stuff, they can not expect to get more than one tenth the results, and this
difference in ability and results has been going on for so long that by now it
should be clearly obvious to anyone in touch with reality that they are full of
shit.
This constant insultng of our work is realy pissing us off, and we are
discussing the possibility of holding an instructor workshop at Indian where we
take some of these guys, like Hires and Lenard and see at what point their
thumbs get bigger than their mouths. I will dive with no pressure guage and we
will swim. They can guage my tanks when we get out, and then maybe these guys
will get the idea - they have been diving with strokes for so long they have no
idea what goes on in the real world, and so think they can do it , even though
none of them as ever done anything even remotely close to anything we have done.
Really getting old. Nest time I hear this bullshit we are going diving.
>
George M. Irvine III
DIR WKPP
1400 SE 11 ST Ft Lauderdale, FL 33316
954-493-6655 FAX 6698
Email gmiiii@in*.co*
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