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From: <gmiiii@in*.co*>
Date: Sun, 27 Oct 1996 06:20:57 -0800
Subject: Re: Deep Stops
To: HBAInterA@ao*.co*, techdiver@terra.net, cavers@ge*.co*

 Jess, the guy who wrote it, Dale, lives here . He brought me a copy and I 
installed it, used it a few times, and then ask Bill Mee to check the 
programming. It has a lot of unnecessary detail, just like Abyss does, and is 
not fast enough for my extreme impatience (since I know the deco aready), but
we 
have not finished checking it for accuracy to the algorithm. I can flat out
tell 
you right now that none of these things gives the correct or best deco, so you 
will still have to do some other steps to come up with the answers, but hat is 
true of all of them.

   In case any of you geeks want to argue this, first tell me your experience , 
and then we will talk, so that ends that. For the constant disbelievers, check 
out Jean-Pierre Imbert's work - although he weenieizes it for the strokes he
has 
to deal woth, he long ago figured out that TWO models are required - go argue 
with him, he at least needs the practice.

    Or , you can check out Weinke's stuff or Eric Maiken ( he is now in Japan, 
no longer ot U of Cal. Good luck. The Chinese studies are excellent as well, if 
you can understand the math - maybe Bill Rennaker can give you a hand with
this. 
  

On Sat, 26 Oct 1996, HBAInterA@ao*.co* wrote:
>I have been using a program called Voyager.  I have found that it will
>calculate cutom deep stops and it does not take forever to calculate.  They
>have a web page at www.divevoyager.com
>
>Does anyone have any comments or experience in using this program? 
>
>Jess Miller
>
>
>>From: gmiiii@in*.co*
>>Subject: Re: Deep Stops
>>To: "Christopher M. Parrett" <chris@ab*.co*>, techdiver@terra.net
>>
>> Chris , what you have writen below is baloney: deep stops ARE required,
>they do 
>> NOT cause a need for longer shallow stops. Get it right, or get it off of
>    
>>here. The correect version is that the alogithm you use does not adequately
> 
>>describe the proper decompression, but for weenie dives, who cares. For real
> 
>>diving , you need to find out WTF you are talking about, or get out of the
>  
>>business. I never want to see anything this stupid out of somebody who holds
>  
>>themselves up as an expert in public again. Capice?- George Irvine
>>
>>>"Deep Stops" to augment their decompression profiles following more
>extended
>>>technical exsposures. As most of you will know, Tissue Based algorithms do
>>>not lend themselfs well to artificial insertion of additional non-required
>>>deco stops, and adding these stops often increases future decompression
>>>obligations at shallower depths (when following the model).
>>
>>>Christopher M. Parrett, President
>>>Abysmal Diving Inc. 6595 Odell Place, Suite G. Boulder CO, 80301 USA
>>>
>>>Makers of ABYSS, Advanced Dive Planning Software.
>>>
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>>>
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>>>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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>>
>>George M. Irvine III
>>DIR WKPP
>>1400 SE 11 ST Ft Lauderdale, FL 33316
>>954-493-6655 FAX 6698
>>Email gmiiii@in*.co*
>>
>><----  End Forwarded Message  ---->
>
>

George M. Irvine III
DIR WKPP
1400 SE 11 ST Ft Lauderdale, FL 33316
954-493-6655 FAX 6698
Email gmiiii@in*.co*

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