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Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 20:09:05 -0500
To: <ALongtin@ao*.co*>, anscott@ns*.co*.au*, techdiver@terra.net
From: trout@mo*.gu*.ne* (Jesse Armantrout)
Subject: Re: SPG and Reg on Deco Bottles --- George Jump In here
As a minimum, put button type spgs on deco bottles and real spgs on stage
bottles.  Any bottle being dropped must be checked at the point of dropping.
If it is not what you expect, the dive is over.  Even if you are carrying
the bottle with you the whole dive, the peace of mind is worth it.  If you
try it both ways, you will agree.

Come on guys, this is tech diving 101.

Trout

At 06:41 PM 9/24/96 -0400, ALongtin@ao*.co* wrote:
>In a message dated 96-09-23 09:27:14 EDT, anscott@ns*.co*.au* (Scott
>Leimroth) writes:
>
>> I would agree that, yes the diver with the spg may have some slight
>>  warning of a problem however it would most likely be only slightly more
>>  warning than diver with no spg because if it were only a slow decrease
>>  in gas supply then it would most likely be from some sort of leak and
>>  would be visibly detected by the nospg diver as well. Even if the diver
>>  with the spg were to have prior notice of failure of a gas supply he
>>  would still only have the same options as the nospg diver if gear
>>  configoration were the same, ie same gas supply options ie. he either
>>  has no breathable gas for deco or he has (it may be a backup of the gas
>>  that failed or it may be some other substitute, or it may be nothing but
>>  H2O).
>>   If the decrease was relatively sudden eg. reg failure, then both divers
>>  would only have relatively little and the same warning if any at all.
>>  Either way both divers are now faced with a lack of supply and face the
>>  same problems. 
>>  So why, if everything is relatively the same, introduce by way of an spg
>>  an extra chance for failure? eg. o ring, hose failure on this addition.
>
>Some good points here... So what your saying is that no matter if there is an
>spg or not, a diver should be able to spot a problem that would result in
>loss of air. 
>
>Okay... But then you don't want to leave that bottle without the spg out of
>your sight. So that means this paticular 1st stage can only be used for deco
>bottles, which you would have to keep on your person throughout the dive. 
>
>Wouldn't it just be easier to standardize all your 1st stages with an spg? I
>can concur that an spg isn't really needed for a deco bottle, but if I were
>to use a 1st stage for a stage bottle, it would definatly have to have an
>spg. Since the bottle would be out of my sight for some time, I would want to
>be able to verify the psi once I picked it up again.\
>
>>  Surely it's not just to have that extra piece of teckie equipment that
>>  everyone else has down at the shop/boat.
>
>If an Spg is teckie equipment, then we better invite every rec.scuba diver in
>here to. It's just easier to have an spg on all your 1st stages, so that they
>are interchangable for different applications.  Sure, you could sit there an
>swap an spg on it if you needed to, but my buddies already bitch that I take
>to long to get in the water.
>
>>  Am I right George?
>>  and where's my free tape?
>>  Scott
>  
>ALongtin@ao*.co*
>
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