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Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 19:14:30 +0300
To: <gmiiii@in*.co*>
From: "Nick M. Tsikas" <tdigr@ac*.ne*>
Subject: Re: Figure deco on the fly was Re: Fwd: Real Life Scare
Cc: techdiver@terra.net
At 04:28 =F0=EC 23/9/1996 -0700, you wrote:
>
>  Jess, to make it easy, use this shortcut: compare tables on the dive you=
 are=20
>doing ( I do not know your gasses). Notice the relationship between the=
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>and between the bottom times - you will see that, like most decay curves ,=
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>points , or stops , are related very much like a Fibonnacci sequence. Take=
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>relationship of your bottom time to your 20 foot stop - this will depend on=
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>depth and intermediate gases ( if you are using 130 aed and 1.4 ppo2, with=
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>max ppo2 for each deco switch ) and use that ratio to determine your 20=
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>stop. You then take the next Fib number up for your ten foot stop and=
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>the sequence from 20 feet for the other stops. At 1, do that for the next=
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>stops. This is a riot , as it looks like a Bulmann model with deep stops.=
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>
>   Or, since you will have lots of time on your hands, do the  rough=20
>approximations of the calculations - see Decompression, Decompression
Sickness,=20
>and translate it from the German, or just look at the formulas (they are in=
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>math).=20
>
>    When I went to Central Florida to take my cave divin', the goobers
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>this, including the German and the math. =20
>
>     Here is an example of a Wakulla dive : 285 for 60 (air form 190, 35=
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>120, 50 from 70 , and oxy from 20. 14X47 bottom mix:
>
>     60 bottom time equates to about 55 at 20, so the ten foot stop is 89=
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>minutes. The 30 is therefor 34, the 40 is 21, the 50 is 13, the 60 is 8,
the 70=20
>is 5, the 80 is 3, the 90 is 2, the 100 is 1, 110 for 1, 120 for 1, 130 for
1. I=20
>would then pad them to what I know is correct, which is to pick up the air=
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>190 at start breathing that up in one minute increments to the 120 stop,
where I=20
>wold spend a few minutes before resuming. I would also do all of the 10 and=
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>at 20, or all three at 30 if there is a way to get out of the water.
>
>      At any rate, you can take this sequence and pad it up after finding=
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>basic numbers, and it will be so close to the actual calculation that you=
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>never need tables again., or at least not be worrying about overstaying=
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>bottom time, or understaying it.  You just have to know what the basic deco=
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>looks like for different depths and mixes, or what you like to do for deco.=
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>
>       If I know that an hour at 300 is basicly a five hour deco, I can=
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>work out a schedule. In our case, as we approach the flat part of the
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>curve, incremental additions to bottom time no longer translate into equal=
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>chunks of addditional deco, but bvery little more at all, and almost no=
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>in the oxygen portion.
>
>        Where you must be accurate to a degree is where you go from dives=
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>really require no deco, like 300 for 10 minutes, to dives that mandate it,
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>300 for 27 minutes , for example. There is a huge difference between 300=
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>15-18 minutes and 300 for 22-30 minutes. From 30 to 60 is pretty linear,=
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>then above that it shrinks progressively per bottom time increment.=20
>
>       I have done every bottom time in this range repeatedly, and am sure=
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>these facts in practice. It is amazing what the human body can tolerate.
Deco is=20
>your friend if you shape it right, it will hurt you if do not. If you do=
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>much, you are hurting yourself. If you need to do too much, don't dive.
>
>
>George M. Irvine III
>DIR WKPP
>1400 SE 11 ST Ft Lauderdale, FL 33316
>954-493-6655 FAX 6698
>Email gmiiii@in*.co*


George,

although this answer was not for me, I'd like to thank you for the valuable
information you shared with all of us.


Friendly,
NICK

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