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In message <9608271130.ab24534@uk*.ac*.ed*.ta*>, J Shepherd <jms@ta*.ed*.ac*.uk*> writes > > Hi Chris, I hope you're feeling better. > > I have to disagree with you on a couple of points. > > i) That ponies have no use. > > ii) That their discussion has no place on techdiver. > > Point i I'll leave for the moment. But on point two, can you >define techdiving in your terms? You may find that a lot of people >differ. Now, I may believe that it refers to people with more money than >sense and too much gear. You may believe it refers to diving in >environments beyond 'the norm'. Yes, I do > > Many other will say it covers the use of anything beyond OW1. I >have heard in my (short) time as a diver (only 6 years) deco Deco - Yes if it is of more than 15-20 mins >, Nx, Nitrox - if it is the sole gas used and the Deco statement above applies - No >twinsets, ponies, the use of shotlines and deco bottles No >penetration, Yes >use of lines underwater If appropriate - Yes >, any gas other than air, Single Nitrox mixtures - No > any diluent other thanN2, Yes > any equipment beyond a single bottle, No > the use of back mount BCs No >*all* used as definitions in part or in whole used as definitions for >techdiving. Usually derogatory; And wrongly! > most people couldn't give a monkeys >about doing diving beyond 30'@30m, in vis<6m, or in temps below 7C. Possibly, possibly not - depends on your location. > > But let's say I *do* care. Where do I go to look for the little >bit extra? I go to those that know. Now if I'm to understand that the >use and abuse of redundant, managed bail outs is a *technical* issue, >where better to start than here? Ok > > Only to find you lot saying that ponies are *not* technical. Oh >great, now what the fuck do I do? Go to rec.scuba? I wouldn't trust the >50+ opinions I'd get there any further than I can throw this Elonex. Pony cylinders have no place in 'techdiving'! > > I'm in enough trouble for >trying to get the gems out of here as it is, I do not need to get memos >sent to my boss for three day weekends jamming my mail account with WKPP >defending itself against attacks that don't even occur on techdiver Hmmm.. I only get hassle from the wife - I pay for my own e-mail :-( >. > > If you think this is an attack on WKPP, fire your shrink. Not at all. > > I'm not a techdiver. I don't want to be. When I meet one face to >face that I'd dive with on air, I'll think about it. Fine, I guess you are confirming that the majority a) Think they are doing it. b)Tell everybody they are doing it. c) Make it as complicated as possible to back up a+b Regards Chris E-mail:- chris@de*.de*.co*.uk*
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