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Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 11:09:59 -1000 (HST)
From: Richard Pyle <deepreef@bi*.bi*.Ha*.Or*>
To: J Shepherd <jms@ta*.ed*.ac*.uk*>
Cc: Guy Wittig <wittig@sh*.de*.co*>, techdiver@terra.net
Subject: Re: Cleaning regulators

> 	i) do rebreather users have to O2 clean the entire loop?

I don't.  Obviously, fires can burn much brighter and hotter in high-O2 
environments; however, in diving we are not nearly as concerned with a 
fire in-progress as we are in *igniting* a fire.  Spontaneous ignition 
seems to require a combination of high PO2 *and* high FO2, so I only 
worry about it with pure O2 above 500psi. I don't worry about it with any 
nitrox mixture because I never make nitrox mixtures with more than about 
30-40% O2. At higher percentages, I would be more careful.

> 	ii) NASA started all the O2 work, didn't they, after Apollo 1 &/
> 13 - why did they come up with an fO2 40% as a critical point?

Good question.  Someone once told me, but I have since forgotten.

> 	iii) saying O2 fires don't happen at low pressures is fine; tell
> the guys starting their oxyacetaline rigs from grease patches.

See above - it's not the fire we're worried about as much as the 
potential for ignition.  I'm not an expert, but it is my understanding 
that most materials have very high ingition temperatures, so are not 
likely to combust.  Hydrocarbons, however, have very low ignition 
temperatures, so they are more likely to combust.  A drop of oil in your 
O2 regulator is not going to explode.  It might, however, combust and 
raise the local temperature high enough to ignite other materials (like 
SS or brass), leading to a fire.

Aloha,
Rich

> 	iv) as bill said, 'it ain't happened yet' is not *quite* good
> enough. When a very nice Thai started to fill his tuk-tuk from a petrol
> pump with the lit cigarette *in that hand* we were the other side of the
> building before you could say 'badoom'. He found it very funny.
> 
> 	jason
> 
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Richard Pyle
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