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Date: 15 Aug 96 09:54:07 -0700
From: "JHEIMANN.US.ORACLE.COM" <JHEIMANN@us*.or*.co*>
To: deepreef@bi*.bi*.ha*.or*
Subject: Re: High altitude decompression
Cc: techdiver@terra.net

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Rich,  
 
If your gauge compensates for altitude and adjusts the pressure corresponding 
to depth=0 based on ambient atomspheric pressure, as I understand an Aladin 
Pro does, then it's not a simple pressure gauge.  Indicated depth=20 in that 
case does not mean pressure = 1.6 ATAs, but something less. 
 
I guess what I really should have asked was:  
 
1) do Uwatec bottom timer/depth gauges, which I use with tables for all real 
dives, do this?   I intend to find out myself by taking one on a high altitude 
dive with an Aladin Pro and an analog gauge.  Maybe I'll even call Uwatec, or 
(gasp) see if I can find my instruction sheet.  If anyone cares what the 
answer is, I'll post it to the list 
 
2) are there any non-obvious physiological factors associated with altitude 
that would affect decompression or O2 tolerance? 
 
John 
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John H. Heimann				Sr. Product Manager 
Oracle Corporation			Security Products 
500 Oracle Pkwy, Box 659410		415-506-9750 (phone) 
Redwood Shores, CA 94065		415-506-7226 (fax) 
			

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Date: 15 Aug 96 00:25:27
From:"Richard Pyle <deepreef@bi*.bi*.Ha*.Or*>" <deepreef@bi*.bi*.Ha*.Or*>
To:gmiiii@in*.co*
Subject:Re: High altitude decompression
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>   John, call Harvard and demand your money back for that physics degree. I
would 
> insist on it. There is nobody on this list who has both an iq above room 
> temperature and any diving experience. Try writing "Dear Abbey". -G

What George meant was, your decompression and PO2 calculations are based 
on your "depth" as your depth gauge tells you.  And of course, your depth 
gauge isn't telling you how many feet below the surface you are; your 
depth gauge is telling you what the ambient pressure is.  Given this, and 
given that decompression is a function of the part of the gas that is NOT 
oxygen (as opposed to the PO2 per se), and given a bunch of other things 
that should be obvious....well...the answer should be pretty straightforward.

Now...if I could only get some diving experience, I could prove George 
wrong on his second point.

Aloha,
Rich

> 
> On 13 Aug 96, "JHEIMANN.US.ORACLE.COM" <JHEIMANN@us*.or*.co*> wrote:
> >I have been thinking about some deep diving in Lake Tahoe, which is at an 
> >altitude of approx. 6000'.  I know that decompression profiles are 
> >significantly changed by the reduced atmospheric pressure.  What I have been 
> >wondering is how depth limits based on PO2s are affected.  At first thought,
I 
> >would think that one could breathe a given mix at a deeper depth than at sea 
> >level, since the absolute pressure at any given depth is less than at sea 
> >level.  E.g., a decompressing diver could go on O2 at something like 24 ffw 
> >instead of 20 ffw and still maintain a PO2 limit of 1.6 ATA (I don't want to 
> >argue here about whether 1.6 ATAs PO2 when breathing O2 at 20 fsw is safe; 
> >this is just an example). 
> > 
> >John 
> > 
> >------------------------------------------------------------ 
> >John H. Heimann				Sr. Product Manager 
> >Oracle Corporation			Security Products 
> >500 Oracle Pkwy, Box 659410		415-506-9750 (phone) 
> >Redwood Shores, CA 94065		415-506-7226 (fax) 
> >			
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> >
> 
> George M. Irvine III
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Richard Pyle
deepreef@bi*.bi*.ha*.or*
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