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Date: Sun, 11 Aug 1996 10:52:26 +0100
To: IANTD <iantdhq@ix*.ne*.co*>
Cc: techdiver@terra.net
From: Chris Hellas <chris@de*.de*.co*.uk*>
Subject: Re: strokery strokery everywhere
Hi Tom


In message <199608082028.NAA28178@df*.ix*.ne*.co*>, IANTD
<iantdhq@ix*.ne*.co*> writes
>Chris
>
>On the $100/hr I doubt that was a true statement, especially as I do 
>not think there is a real membership of the US deep diving team at this 
>time.

As I said 'wether this is true or not' - The point I was trying to
illustrate was the fact that the only real hard useful info that seems
to be passed around right now comes from the WKPP guys. The source for
the '$100 per hour' story is reputable and from what I know has no axe
to grind over anything.


> I know most of the people who may become associated with it, none 
>are at this moment except for the founders and they are not in 
>communication with anyone that I'm aware of

As I said - it was a comment that was passed regarding a request for
information/assistance.

>. Many of the ones that are 
>stated occassionally on the net such as Larry green are quite good 
>friends of mine and are about as layback and mellow as anyone can 
>be.

Only met Larry once @ Tek 96 - seems a nice guy.

>Also exceptional cave divers and among the first to ever use gas iun 
>a cave.

Hmmm...... being the first don't mean the best ;-)

> I get amused at the things i read on the net as I know so many 
>that poetential members of the team who have said absobulutely nothing 
>publicly about folks. Some do not particip[ate on the net as any 
>viewpoint that is different even if valid immediately brings about 
>slams and other blast and name calling. 

I agree that things get a little tedious at times. Most of the time
however the comments are passed to prevent people with a lack of
appreciation persuing something without being in possestion of the
facts.
>
>I anticipate doing more diving with the WKPP but that will not change 
>my opnion about slamming people and some of the degrading comments that 
>arte put out. These are the reasons there is not more open discussion 
>of diving practices etc on the net it simply is not worth the slams to 
>most people. 

Agreed - to a point. Just hang back and watch - things calm down after a
while.
>
>A good point is anyone who likes to buttmount a light gets hit hard. 
>Yet I defy anyone provided lights of equal capability or used  to show 
>how a buttmounted light is unsafe. I use both waist mounted and 
>buttmounted lights and consider the buttmount to be far superior, for 
>this statement there will most likely be a week of slams but it does 
>not change the facts it is more streamlined, more balanced and allows 
>both sides of the backplate/pack to be able to eficiently carry stages.

Sez you! - Seriously Tom, this is exactly the point you are
illustrating. From my experience, and I've tried it for one season, butt
mounting is fraut with problems. I am not going to discuss, since this
is very_old_ground. Needless to say I do not recommend butt mounting.

>One arguement is you cannot tow with a buttlight, I find no difference 
>with either light in that respect. I practice with both to be sure. By 
>the way I was waist mounting cave lights years before anyone now or 
>past who is involved with WKPP ever made there first cave dive.And I 
>still prefer buttmount.

Can't comment - don't own/use a scooter :-(  (yet! ;-)  )

> I also like back pain free diving thus use a 
>transpack.

Tried that one too. Not very successfully. Requires too much 'string and
tape' to make it anything like - large bladder is too big, plus a heap
of other things. But at least I've tried it!.


Regards


Chris


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e-mail:- chris@de*.de*.co*.uk*
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