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You wrote:
George
Enclosed is 30 answers to your opinion�s on buttmounting, sorry I did
not see any real reasons
> 1
1A This statement your #1, actually says nothing so does not need a
formal reply
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2A How does a buttmounted light cause a trim problem, all the weight is
in a straight line, You obviously have never dived a butt light as is
reflected by your like of knowledge of them
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>
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3A. Towing by crotch strap works equally as well, with a buttmounted
light and ride on towing is excellent with a butt light the hands
actually go below where the light is I know because I have practiced
and taught this technique
>
4A You can tow a DPV from this mounting no problem, I have no reason to
carry a reel there
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>
5A A buttmounted light does require D rings on the tank but it also
produces far less width to the diver thus one can fit into a tighter
space without worrying about entanglement AGAIN it is apparent you have
not used a buttmounted light I have not been tangled due to a buttlight
in my whole diving history
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>
6A The light folds behind the tank and drops in place when you stand
up, when you sit down it slides back behind the tank. AGAIN You simply
have not used a buttlight and base these statements on personal opinion
not first hand experience
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7A I have no problem connecting and disconnecting my light, and I have
never been entangled by a light on the butt, I have been stuck due to a
waist light in restrictions several times which was one of the reasons
I switched to a buttmounted light
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8A I have no problem reaching a switch , as a matter of fact it is
easier than on the waist strap/hip mount - I also use twist heads
except on my AUL lights and I have considered putting them on those
also I find them to
require less maintenance and much simpler to work with I also have all
cylinder lights at this time so do not come back with the square light
stuff
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9A If you run the cord, on a butt light under the waist strap there is
no potential of damage to the cord the switch is protected by your body
I also place my waist light cord under the waist strap as it to is long
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> .
10 A Again by routing it correctly this is no problem, and it is not
that much longer of a cord
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>11 A I use 121�s and have no problem with l a buttlight
12 A I breath the long hose and it does not cause any problems, that
was an absurd statement- My hose runs behind the wings and if someone
has slack or a floating problem they can push the surplus into their
waist strap (forward) I guess your confussion is due to no experience
with this system and it leaves no choice except grasping at straws
>.
13A How does buttmounting cause one not to place stages on a given
side. Yes it does give the added flexibility to stage on both sides-As
you know I believe that stages with different mixtures should be
separated with the higher EANx being placed on the right side-on tow
behind DPV�s I stage cylinders with the same mix on the left, When I
swin or ride I place stages on opposing sides for better trim and
balance
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>14A If you wish to refer to progressive thinking, safety attitudes,
safe dive histories, and positive thinking I rate rather high in these
areas and what the heck has the way a light is configured got to do
with someone�s attitude or mental/ thinking abilities again a
statement that really has no bases or merit
It is obvious this is not a list of 14 reasons ,
It is a list of 14 personal opinions not borne out by experience with
the object of which the attack is directed (a buttmounted light)
I have been diving waist/hip mounted lights for more than 30 years, and
still use them 30 to 40 % of the time, but I prefer the buttmount light
as it is more streamlined, you can fit into narrower restrictions (such
as little Dismal) with less probability of being stuck, it is more
balanced and is for me a far superior method to carry a light. I do not
expect everyone to share the same opinion and I do not try to force it
down their throat
You posted this so it deserved and had to be answered so any new folks
could get a complete look at the systems and make their own decisions
Safer diving to everyone
Tom
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>Herve,
>
>>>Could you put it out again?<<
>
>Found George's post in my files. 13 reasons +1. It's in the archives
under
>"Unsafe Practices..."
>md
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> Tom, buttmounting a light is unsafe. Not as unsafe as not
breathing the long
>
>hose, or trying to dcompress on useless computers, or using th wrong
backup
>lights,etc. but unsafe none the less. Here are the reasons why
(again). They are
>
>in no partticular order of significance.
>
> 1) Rule Number One violation - ONLY a stroke would butt mount a
light, and
> that is all I should even say about it, but for the new people ,
I will go
> on . The strokes can kiss my ass.
1A I'm not a stroke and my diving abilities and experience will
rival anyones butt lights are safe
>
> 2) This causes a trim problem with all but the worst light.
A How does it cause a trim problem, all the weight is in a straight
line, You obiviously have never dived a butt light so this is total
BULL
>
> 3) This is blocking the proper position to tow from, which requires
that the head of the towee be against the tanks of the tower. DO NOT
LISTEN TO anyone who does not actually do this, and any
> convoluted ride-on towing scheme I will rebut with Exley's tales
to me of
> real ,life situations. In fact, Exley said, "George has taken the
risk
> out of scooter diving". We do it, we know it.
>
A. Towing by crotch strap works equally as well and ride on towing is
excellent with a butt light the habds actually go below where the light
is I know because I have practiced and taught this technique SO AGAIN
You are out to lunch on this one
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4) The second scooter and exploration reel are pulled in this spot, and
can
> be disconnected from the front.
A You can tow a DPV from this mounting no problem, I have no reason to
carry a reel there
>
> 5) The butt light requires a convoluted series of hose clamps and
d-rings to
> attach it to the tanks (metal to metal - a no no), which are
entangleing
> devices, as is the butt light itself .
A It does requie D rings on the tank but it also produces far less
width to the diver thus one can fit into a tighter space without
worring about entanglement AGAIN it is apparent you have not used a
buttmounted light
>
> 6) The butt light makes sitting down on a boat or rigging up
before a dive a
>
> real "pain in the butt", and subjects the light to damage.
A How would you know , The light folds behind the tank and drops in
place when you stand up, when you sit down it slides back behind the
tank. AGAIN You simply have not used a buttlight and base opnions on
theory not knowledge
>
> 7) It is dangerous to have entagling devices behind you that you
can not
> yourself free.
>A I have no problem connecting and disconnecting my light, and I have
never been entangled by a light on the butt, I have been stuck due to a
waist light in restrictions several times which was one of the reasons
I switched to a buttmounted light
> 8) The butt mount makes it difficult to reach your on/off switch
- an
> aggregious safety violation. Using a switch in the handle is
an
> unnecessary additional convolution required to compensate for
doing it
> wrong in the first place. The twist handle ranks among the
> worst engineered, most poorly conceived, uselss pieces of shit
I have
> ever seen. It works only intermittantly, and in salt water,
using the
> handle as the cathode of the ciruit is absolute stupidity at
its best.
>
> 9) The butt light exposes the switch and cord to unnessesary
damage.
>
> 10) The butt light requires a ridiculous amount of additonal
cord to make
> it to the hand, and sujects this to snagging, snatching , and
fouling,
> as well as additonal stress and damage, both along the cord
and at the
> two terminal ends. And convoluted cord routing schemes are
not the
> answer.
>
> 11) With the large OMS 121 tanks, the butt light becomes the
thigh light,
> and for short people , like Sandra Dirksen, it becomes the
knee light.
>
> 12) Buttmounting provides a bad excuse for not breathing the
long hose,
> as the hose will float up if it is not run under the light
or the
> knife, which should be on the belt only, when you get into a
vertical
> position.
>
> 13) Buttmounting encourages people to put stage bottles on
both sides,
> thus really slowing them down and making it impossible to
ride a
> proper scooter. Keeping the bottles left and riding the
scooter with
>
> the right hand keep the bottles still, not moving, and
out of the
> prop wash.
>
> 14) Buttmounting diplays an attitude of not being a forward
thinker,
> and therefor is like wearing a sign on your back saying,
"Dive With
> Me At Your Own Risk"
>
>
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