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On Tue, 6 Aug 1996, gmiiii@in*.co* wrote: > > Not to pneumothorax is what I meant. Embolize was the wrong word, sorry for > the confusion. He held the head back to keep the airway open. PADI Rescue > Diver One. That's fine now... a few other subscribers explained me that. > > Once again, the weenies and strokes are calling around trying > to make trouble for the WKPP and JJ. I believe that one this one, you are wrong. Me and others are trying to understand the incident. There is no intention to make trouble. I believe that there is something to learn out of each one... for the diver, for the lifesavers and of the project director. Here are some observations: 1. In the Doing it Right video, you mention that each cylinder is inspected, analysed and the content is recorded in a book. Was the support diver cylinder inspected that way? 2. How the hell can someone not trust is gauge for a dive at that depth? I know that Exley got a stucked needle for a dive to more than 800 feet, but if it is suspected that a needle may get stuck at 120 feet, there is a need for a better, more reliable gauge. 3. There is no need for a gauge to return safely to the surface. If the diver is just a little bit aware, he will find that the regulator becomes harder to breathe before running out of air. He should have enough time to go back to the surface without any harm (I practiced that at different depths, using different regulators and it work with most of them). 4. The diver had a lot of gas on him. It should be clear that diver safety has priority over the goal for the dive. Did he not use the gas because he did not want to jeopardize YOUR dive? 5. The diver should be able to clear a regulator when getting one in his mouth. Except if he has is head tilted on the wrong side while getting a Poseidon Jetstream or if he gets the regulator upside down. May be he got water before he got the regulator? This incident was easilly preventable and I hope that mesures will be taken so nothing similar happens again. > I can assure you that as I get your names, I wil do an >evaluation of your skills and your instructor's skills, and if you are an >insrucotor, I will evaluate you for months to come. My name is Michel Therrien. If you want my address and phone number, tell me, I'll be please to give them to you. And,... I will also be glad to be evaluated by one of the most talented divers on this planet. You're welcome to come here to do so. > If anyone wants to fight, you have found the guy who loves it > best - me. None of you can cause me problems or get me booted out > - my track record is too long and too good.- G Me and many others on this list are not fighters. We like to talk about diving and to learn. And there is something to learn out of any event like this one. For you, there must be a list that discuss wrestling somewhere on the internet... you should look at it. Should the incident turned out in being an accident, it is my opinion that this would have been as equally stupid as the Great Lakes accident. Would you have been as much critical to the divers as you were for the Great Lakes divers? Michel
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