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> Rich, the air thing in bondage wings is in your mind. The fact is that being > able to move the air is how you can achieve angled buoyancy, and even bondage > wings will move the air up to the point that the valve lets lose like the > regualr wings. The whole concept is designed to fool the diver. Golly...it's got me fooled pretty good. And to think, all that time I actually thought it was better. > We use all kinds of angles and positions to do what we do. Let me ask you > this: how do you fine tune your buoyancy using the rebreather? Is there any way > to get it like scuba, or is close just good enough? I use the counterlung volume for fine tuning. For the first 20 hours or so, your bouynacy control slurps wind because you're used to using your breathing and you're not used to that much collapsable bouyancy. However, once you master it, you have FAR better control than you ever did on scuba. I no longer have to hold my breath or in other ways alter my breathing to hand solid as a rock in mid-water. It's great for photography. If I'm a bit too light, I snort a little gas out my nose. If I'm too heavy, I tweak my shoulder in a certain way and a tiny amount of diluent is added to the loop. This not only adds volume directly, but also drops the PO2 slightly so the solenoid fires a few extra bursts of O2, further adding volume. It takes time to learn the techniques, but now my ability to hold vertical position without even thinking about it while hovering along a vertical wall is better than it ever has been before. I don't have bondage wings on the 'breather now, but I will be adding them to the Mk5, if the 5 doesn't already come with them. I think I'll only use a single-bladder, because the counterlungs are my backup buoyancy. Incidently, on the angled thing, the trick there is to establish a firm "center of buoyancy" (is that a real term?) in the right place - then you can roll in any angle and hold it without effort. That's the main reason I used aluminum 100's on my open-circuit rig. The rig was neutral with little or no gas in the BC, and my body was neutral with no wetsuit or weightbelt (therefore didn't change with depth), which means I didn't have to struggle to hold an angle. > I was realy hopping you were going to tell me they cause less drag, like the > strokes say, but then you are not that stupid. For even thinking that, I > appologize to you. I know you do some great stuff, but I hate it when you > bullshit us. - G Apology accepted, but in fairness, I have to admit that I originally did believe there was less drag. I haven't gone back to see if it was real or not, but you are much more in tune with subtleties of drag than I am, so I'll take your word for it (see, that's an example of giving credit where credit is due). So, I'll just assume the difference I perceived was psychosematic. Unless, of course, you've never tried bongdage wings, in which case you wouldn't know what you are talking about, and you would be as much full of shit as I am. Rich
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