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From: <gmiiii@in*.co*>
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 1996 19:23:09 -0700
Subject: Re: Keep rule #1 in mind...
To: kens@uf*.ed*, cavers@ge*.co*, techdiver@terra.net,
     freeattic@co*.ci*.uf*.ed*

  Ken, you are "dead" right - this guy Veahey is a known and proven stroke, and 
is part of a group of strokes known as the "extreme team" - extreme strokes.
One 
of these is Mitch Skaggs of TDI . Jim earned my "never ever" list six years ago 
when he almost killed another friend of mine, after lying about his diving 
ability and training (if you can call Hal Watts' bullshit training). This guy 
and his buddies are the worst in the busineess, the biggest hoovers I have ever 
seen, and totally lacking in any skills what so ever.

  When I found out about this, I called the guy whom Sallot rescued, and told 
him to be at my house at 7:00 with all of his gear, and be prepared to sell it 
all to me and quit diving, or let me show him how to do it right. He did the 
latter. I told him as his friend, I did not want him to get killed, and made 
him promise not to dive with the Veaheys and other strokes of the world. It is 
amazing, some of the best in the business come from South Florida, and some of 
the absolute worst. My firend said he figured Veahey was out of gas and left, 
but Sallot checked the moron and found he had left with buddy's third - the 
trademark of the true stroke - my friend is now aware of the situation, and has 
singed off on Rule Number One.

   This guy told me, Sallot is a "pro". He did everything right: he was willing 
to go in and deal with what he expected to be a panicked out of air diver, he 
dealt with it, he got the guy out towing WKPP style, and when the guy ran out
of 
gas , Sallot smoothly passed the long hose while still scootering and towing my 
friend. That is hot shit, in my opinion, and I am proud that Sallot is a member 
of WKPP.

    This is a stark contrast to the stroke buddy who left him,  a personal 
preference, hose-stuffing, butt-mounting slob who has all of the answers, just 
like most of the technical community, just like most of the "tec" instructional 
community , and just like most of the famous red neck cave divers.

    This is more proof of the pudding, and more reason for us to be totally 
intolerant of the strokes out there. 

    Do it right or don't do it at all, and part of doing it right is not diving 
with strokes  (Rule Number One). I am so sick of listening to the big teckies 
and the doughboys out there who have no clue , and I a so sick of hearing about 
their constant clusterfucks. 

     If you are a stroke, quit diving, and quit telling me about bondage wings
, 
square lights, stuffed hoses, helmets, personal preference, independents, 
hoseless spgs, computers, technical bc's, deep air, high ppo2's, 17/17, 
neoppreme drysuits, putting air in argon, and so on and so forth. In my
opinion, 
all of you (strokes) need to take the cotton out of your ears, put it in your 
mouth, and find out what you are missing. -G
 
 

George M. Irvine III
DIR WKPP
1400 SE 11 ST Ft Lauderdale, FL 33316
954-493-6655 FAX 6698
Email gmiiii@in*.co*

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