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Date: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 21:33:55 +1000 (EST)
To: techdiver@terra.net
From: David Strike <strikinc@oz*.co*.au*>
Subject: Training, Is their any other way????
Gibbo,

G'Day, Mate!  Great Post.

>Teaching people to dive and earning money from it causes all sorts of 
>problems about who maintains quality control. I know PADI is supposed to 
>have this wonderful all encompassing quality assurance program, but as we 
>all have seen it DOES NOT WORK. Too many people slip through the net.
>
>Lets look at other area where you pay to get instruction.
>	Driving a car-------- someone else examines you
>You pay for the instructions but someone else decides if you pass or not. 
>This allows people to go to the best instructors for driving lessons 
>because they have the best pass rate. I'm sure that there are many other 
>good examples but I can not think of any currently
>
>The training agencies are going to have to get their shit together soon 
>or they will become regulated. (I think this just happened in Canada).

And Australia.  Big time!  Governments, State and Federal, see diving as a
way to advance the bureaucratic structure.  The problem being that safety
becomes a secondary issue to pragmatic considerations.

>The BSAC system used to one of the best in the world in training divers 
>because of the club system, until money started getting in the way. 

See above.

>Now BSAC schools can suffer the same problems that PADI schools do

Times change!

>George has developed his own club (WKPP) and so is able to maintain his own 
>standards in respect to cave diving. You dive the way his team dives, or 
>you dont dive with them. If you join WKPP he takes a look at your gear 
>training and any other baggage that you carry with you scraps the crap 
>and works on improving the rest. 

Good on him!  George is a phrophet of things to come.

>The theory behind diving clubs is that it is not just the money the 
>instructor is after. They are promoting the sport that they love by 
>investing time to teach others.

Most of them do.  {Hell!  I don't know of too many Instructors that boast
that they're in it for the loot!] 

>That person is then going to be diving 
>with them in the futur and if they have been trained badly or unsafe then 
>you are putting at risk one of your friends.
>What we have to promote is that the cheapest dive school is probably the 
>cheapest dive school for a reason. They cut corners and churn out as many 
>students in order to sell equipment and more courses. It all down to 
>money and marketing.
>
>What we need is a new Organisation that would not be stuck in the past 
>concerning training and what should and should not be taught. It should 
>not be so concerned with making money>

Let's scrap this notion that there's something wrong with making money!

> but simply promoting the sport, 

For free?????

>it should not alow for multilevel marketing as in some of the others. It 
>should allow for STRICT adherance to training quidlines with 
>recertification of instructors on a yearly basis.

You have my whole hearted blessing on that one!

>Any infringment of 
>training standards should be grounds for decertification. And it should 
>be based upon a club system with more than one signature required for 
>certification of divers. The person who trains does not certify, that is 
>down to someone else. 

I agree!  Good thought!

>Diving is such big businness>

You're joking!!!  Virtually everyone that I know in diving has turned their
backs on the the world of Mammon and does it for the life-style and the few
odd coins. 
>
that this will probably never happen. But at 
>least we have a few voices crying out for change and identifying the 
>strokes of this world for what they are. My favorite FAR SIDE cartoon was 
>a field of sheep with their heads down eating grass, with one sheep 
>standing up in the middle shouting.....but we dont have to be sheep.... 
>So take that to heart in the diving world. We dont have to be sheep. 
>Individuals can make a difference even if it takes time for the message 
>to get through.

To get back to the original thought.

What's wrong with teaching people to dive for profit??????????

And does PADI - or any of the other 'training' agencies - really understand
what DIVERS expect out of diving???

Keep up the Crusade.

Strike

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