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Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 02:25:32 -0500
To: cavers@ge*.co*, techdiver@terra.net
From: techvid@ne*.co* (Brown, Christopher)
Subject: Re:Scooter Top Ten
Alex -- you said :

>How the fuck is anyone supposed to guess that
>your attempt at being funny was just that?

Lots of other people got it.

to laugh about the unauthorized use and possible modification
>of the finest scooter ever made for its intended purpose I think you should
>apologize for your lack of appreciation.

What I find laughable is the notion that y'all are worried about someone
pirating your scooters:
A) laughable that someone *could* pirate them after looking at or riding
one. These aren't video tapes, where you plug in another machine and run
off a copy. Anyone with half a brain knows you can't just look at something
as complex and know exactly how to copy it. Even if they did "copy" it,
would a copy be as good as an original? Hardly. So what's the big sweat?
Gimme a break!

B) laughable that anyone *would not* look at another's *very good* product
before developing their own.

What the hell do you expect? What the hell do you think goes on in every
kind of product development there is? That it's done in a vacuum?

 Don't you realize that everyone who ever made a cola, a dive light, a
camera, a flipper, a rebreather, or a condom looked at what some other guy
made first, to see what else could be done/improved? EVERYONE who ever made
anything researches, compares, asks questions, etc. That's a CRIME? Anyone
who *doesn't* research what already works is an idiot.

 Do you think that the idea of a way to get thru a cave faster using
rechargeable batteries in a pressure housing with a motor and a prop and a
trigger just came to Gavin in a dream? Yikes!

This whole "threat" business appears to be a manufactured one, designed to
foment hostility against a "common enemy", and thereby cement esprit de
corps. Which in itself is a shrewd and excellent tactic. Ever read any
history or tactics? If you had, you'd recognize the manipulation. Classic,
obvious, transparent -- but it works!  ;-)

Thanks for the genuine and earnest spirit in your comments to me. I fully
recognize that it is such spirit and loyalty that makes WKPP so good at
what it does.

Take care.....






>
>              Gavin and Irvine combined efforts to design and build these
>scooters at their personal expense for use by the WKPP and to have a wannabe
>rival group (of which they can't compete) attempting to duplicate, steal or
>modify them because they may not be good enough is a genuine insult to the most
>talented and productive members of our fraternity.
>
>               I feel privledged to have a group with such a wealth of proven
>information willing to share with me and anyone else that listens instead of
>acting like a fucking sexual intellectual and I will never laugh about the
>theft
>of equipment and or backyard quarter backing that I see taking place by people
>that aren't fit to clean the overboard discharge tubes from their drysuits.
>
>                Do you really think that Stones crew is going to share
>what they
>consider to be inside information with you or anyone else? Its clear that
>George
>and WKPP have proven that they share all of their new and old developments and
>its for the sole purpose of making us all safer and more proficient divers.
>
>                  I thank them with all my heart and especially  George. I for
>one realize the over whelming expense and sacrifice that George and Co. make to
>help all of us and I don't expect him to kiss my ass when he's helping me and I
>think its clear that some on this list do. As a matter of fact it does not
>overwhelm me if George deems me  a STROKE or WEENIE because if I listen, learn
>and practice what he is willing to teach me then I will graduate from being a
>WEENIE to being a GREAT CAVE DIVER.
>
>
>                  Please refrain from this display of assholishness in the
>future as I hate to feel the need to delete anyone from my mail box and I'm
>certain that if you shut the fuck up (in regards to your attacks on George) and
>learn you'll have something to offer those that need to know including
>yourself.
>Take care.......................Alex

Christopher A. Brown
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