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From: gmiiii@in*.co*
Subject: Re: Gavin Scooter Top Ten
To: techvid@ne*.co* (Brown, Christopher), cavers@ge*.co*,
techdiver@terra.net
Chris, it is clear that you have no understanding of what is involved here,
and that is nothing new. When you contribute anything to anything, let us know.
All you do is criticize those who do.
You design and develop a scooter that does what this one does, make 28 of
them for your team at your expense and with yor time and know how (hah) and
then
you can talk. Right now, you have nothing to talk about on either of these
lists, yet you are always in evidence.
While you are at it, get unlimited access to the best dive sites for all of
us, and train up a team of divers every weekend for a couple of years, and then
show us your results.
The absolute fact is that you and your little buddies are parasites in this
communnity - you make us all look bad when you show up to poach a dive site
riding on the reputation the WKPP has devleoped for cave diving in Wakulla nd
Leon Counties with the landowners. On top of that you are an embarrassement to
all men : you show up , looking like a vagrant, smoking cigarettees, while
pretending to be a diver, make an asshole out of yourself, and leave ,
providing
nothing to the overall effort, and setting us all back.
If you actually have something to contribute to these lists, and I am
absolutely sure you do not, put it out, but if you do not, keep to yourself.
Why
is it alwasy the people like you who resent it when I put out a dive story, or
have a legitimate concern that I voice - don't answer - I know why.
The fact is that we have a set of methods using specifiec equipment that
are proven, yet nobody in the cave diving commnuity seems to belive this. In
fact, yor little buddies think they can make our scooter better, yet they do
not
know why it is like it is, as none of them is capapbale of doing the dives we
do. If they were, or if they had ever tired, we would not be having this
conversation, and they would not be running around trying to find somebady with
the WKPP who will help them insult us with this. They know who builds these
devices and who designs them, yet they do not talk to either of those people.
They can get no satisfaction for their inane fantasies from realists, and they
understand that I put up with zero bullshit, a commodity that they deal in
exclusively.
Maybe if we made the scooter square and rigged it so it never worked,
this would appeal to all of these losers, just like the rest of the equipment
they (and strokes like you) use.
The fact is , asshole, that we have NEVER had a scooter failure in
five
years of scooter-dependent diving, and the fact is that I am liable for these
devices, and the fact is that they are the way they are for a list of very good
reasons the neither you, nor the assholes you lionize regularly have any clue
whatsoever as to the reason for. Liabiltiy is something that a street bum like
you does not understand, and Bill Gavin will have nothing to do with building
them because of it. I see a job that needs doing before there are no diveable
caves left, so I took the risk. I will not take the risk of letting people who
have absolutely no track record of this kind of diving near this thing,
expecialy when they are peolple who resuloutely insist than I do not know what
I
am doing, and like you, think there is a better way, even thought none of you
can do any of it any where anytime with any equipment , and have the track
record to prove it.
Chris, nearly every one of our team members have unsubscribed from these
lists becasue of assholes like you, or you would already hae a mailbox full of
complaints. I suggest you try your bullshit on other members of the WKPP, and
see what they think of you.
What I really like to see is the predictable list of do-nothings and
strokes who always take your side. The common denominator is do nothing - ever,
know -nothing, at all, and can not accept reality when it kicks yo in the ass.
By the way, I notice these heros of diving do not put up with you
either. Why is that? I did not think ther was such a thing as being too useless
even for them. You have all of the charactistics of their group - completely
out
of shape, a horrifying diving track record , the appearance of a slob and a
bum,
screwed up dive gear, pie in the sky "only if" thinking, and an alligator mouth
rivalled only by their mascott, John Zumrick.
I'll tell you what Chris, sicne you are such a big fan of these guys,
why don't you buy one of my scooters and donate it to them.
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