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You're stepping way outside of your bounds here. Understand?
Rich
>
> While we wre a Wakulla diving this weekend, a tourist came up to where we
> stage the gear and said he saw an special by National Geographic about some
> cave thing, and all he remembered was that "they killed some guy". What did
go
> on there, what was the point, and what is it that we can expect in the future
> from this crowd or Nat Geo? Obviously, we can see what came of it - nothing,
and
> all that people remember is what this guy said, which wa that they wacked
> somebady, and this was the big event of the show - real cool stuff.
>
> Chris, you are an expert in clusterfucks and other idiocy,you know all the
> strokes and can lionize them effectively, so why don't you set us straight? I
> saw the Outside article, but threw it away when I realized that obviously
> somebody had carried Stone's guitar a mile up the mountain - he lost me right
> there, and I read the Nat Geo article (which Stone himself wrote, and it
seemed
> the same only the pictures were better, expecialy the one in Jackson Blue
which
> they claimed was Huatla ( you could see the entrance in the background), but
> only remember what the other guy remembered -nothing accomplished, one guy
dead.
>
> What is it these people are achieving and what can we learn from it,
other
> than what we aleady know from Rule Number One?
>
> The problem with people like this is that they ruin it for the rest of
us
> who are tying to get real scientific results, and as Todd Kincaid points out
,
> everyone just thinks we are a bunch of crazies when all these guys do is
> highlight the risk-taking and the dangers to make themselves feel like big
> guys. They aren't, and we all know it . The mere fact that THEY can do
> this, when we know they can not cave dive, means the only danger was the
> persistant, consitant, relentless violation of rule number one, and the
> disregard for option number one.
>
> But go ahead and set us straight anyway - we don't have idiots to pay
our
> bils, as we don't break our own sacred rules, and we have guys who are trying
to
> do research, but who get donwplayed by their peer groups when they publish
> thanks to the publicity from the wannabees.
>
> Maybe you can clear this up for us, Chris
>
> On Mon, 15 Jul 1996, techvid@ne*.co* (Brown, Christopher) wrote:
> >Scott Cherf said:
> >>National Geographic covered a cave dive that Stone did a year or so ago
> >>using what looked like a MkIV. I think the article was titled 'Huatalla
> >>Cave Quest'. Check it out.
> >
> >That was the September '95 issue of National Geographic.
> >
> > Also see OUTSIDE Magazine, Nov. '94 for another take on the same project.
> >
> >With anything you read, including internet posts (especially the internet,
> >since this medium has no fact-checkers, editors, truth-standards, controls,
> >etc.) beware the "Rashomon" Effect: Everyone who was there, or not there,
> >has a different version of the same events.
> >
> >("Rashomon", 1950, by Akira Kurosawa, great on a rainy day, with a plate of
> >sushi and warm botle of saki. Oh, btw, it's *not* about diving.)
> >
> >Christopher A. Brown
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> >
> >Life is short -- this is not a rehearsal.
> >
> >
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Richard Pyle
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