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From: <SATURN.DDRAKE05@gm*.co*>
To: "techdiver(a)terra.net" <techdiver@terra.net>,
     gmiiii
Subject: Re[2]: Rebreathers, worthy yet?
Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 22:08:39 -0400

     Dear George,

     I don't like the fact that I have to detect and react to a sensation
     that I might not detect and react to until it's too late.  I
     understand that not all people respond the say way and some don't feel
     bad at all as they are conditioned to CO2.  You know how people used
     to dive until the reg got hard to breath?  Give me the
     gauge/sensor/alarm anyday.

     I'm not saying any rebreather is a great product that you should run
     out and buy.  The companies will have to backup the product they make
     with demonstrated sucess or I will consider using one as running an
     expirement.  I'd say that even the proven co. can make a bad product
     when they go to a new model.  Simply put, it's your life.

     As for why I want a rebreather that is safe and works, are you joking?
     Getting ride of the bubble noise for myself (so I can enjoy the peace)
     and tons of tanks on the boat would be great. Why I could forget about
     a compressor all together and simply use a Genesis 120 as a supply
     tank along with the O2, Argon, and He ;^) Warm air in cold Lake
     Superior!  Seriously, the flexibility is incredible

     There will be an instructor in Michigan for the CCR500 in the near
     future.

     You join the military George, you might just get rid of all the pot
     smokers in it.

     I'll be gone after Friday for a while doing my diving/camping thing,
     so find some other weeners to cook!--DD

     David Drake             EDS/SATURN Infrastructure 8-320-4190 on GMnet
     Spring Hill, TN  USA    Internet: saturn.ddrake05@gm*.co*



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Subject: Re:Rebreathers, worthy yet?
Author:  gmiiii (INET.GMIIII) at DIAMOND
Date:    6/26/96 7:03 AM


   Dear Dave,

      The level of CO2 is not worth a sensor - you can tell immediately
that it is high, when you felllike there is not enough gas in the workld
for you to breath.

      Units that have a high O2 content intending to "average" a lower
output are nothing more than metabolic roulette , in both the hyperoxic
and hypoxic directions.


      Units using electronics must be made properly. This leaves one unit -
the military MK16 of EX19, or the civiallian versios thereof - the
Biomarine stuff.

       If a company cannot make a single working product that is not a
piece of shit, what makes you think they should build rebreathers?

       A far better question is, "what do you use a rebreather for?"?? If
you join the miltary, they will give you one, and train you properly. They
will also give you guns and other things.

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