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Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 08:45:24 -1000 (HST)
From: Dennis Pierce <dpierce@al*.ne*>
To: "John E. McKenney" <mckenney@us*.pi*.co*>
cc: techdiver@terra.net
Subject: Re: Rebreather maintenance
right as rain... on all accounts...  more below...

On Fri, 28 Jun 1996, John E. McKenney wrote:

> Scott Wrote 
>  
> >Going back a couple of years, I recall long conversations about >why the 
> >average diver shouldn't consider buying or using surplus military 
> >re-breathers (i.e. the Mk16 or Mk15.5) because the units had >been
> designed 
> >for use by the military with no concern for servicability.  I know it 
> >was said at least once that 'these units require excessive >amounts of 
> >pre-dive setup'.  Statements like 'you need to almost re-build the >units 
> >after every dive' were made. 
>  
> >How much of this is still true with the CCR500, and how much of >it was 
> >hogwash from the start? 
>  
> >Thanks, 
> >Scott. 
>  
> Scott, 
> Vive been diving a Bio Marine CCR 155 for almost 2 years now. Yes there are
> excessive amounts of maintenance both pre and post dive, with it. With out
> a doubt it is going to be the same with the CCR 500. I know that Dick is
> using the same technology and a lot of the same parts. I  would not get
> close to any unit that the manufacturer said  "hey just slap this sucker on
> and away you go see ya in four hours".   Salt water, electronics,
> pneumatics and the probability that human error will prevail, pretty much
> eliminates the design of a maintenance free unit.  Anyone out there who
> discounts the hard fact, that there will be a lot of maintenance and
> thereby sees himself not performing the necessary maintenance,  DON'T BUY
> ONE YOU WILL DIE. 

again, very true, and we don't want the bad press.. thanks.



 I don't believe what Dick said about only 15 minutes
> worth of maintenance. 
>  
> You don't have to all most rebuild the unit after every dive. You had
> better be able to take it all the way apart when it needs it  in order to
> keep it in good working order. The E package and Secondary gauges, unless
> you are an EE might be tough to fix in the field.  There's a check list
> with about 20 things to do  
> Prior to and after a dive, see below. 
>  
> The words "log book" were made for this unit. Keeping track of everything
> is a must.  For those of you who enjoy technical maintenance it should be
> enjoyable. After a while it's like anything else it becomes a habit. You
> get good at it and it doesn't take as long as it did in the beginning.  How
> do you take care of your open circuit rig?  A good question to ask yourself
> before you buy a rebreather.  
>  
> If you let someone else do your maintenance for you you're a DICKHEAD, PACK
> YOUR OWN CHUTE. 
>  
> When you want to change your set point, then calibration procedures have to
> be done this takes 45 minutes to an hour.  
>  
> Replumbing a third tank into my unit was relatively easy about 2 or 3 days
> in all. Some Swagelok,  fittings and brackets, a three way valve, some
> stainless tubing, a little plumbing experience will help.  
>  
>  
> Don't put any slobknobs on the unit or George will flame you. 
>  
> The expense doesn't stop with the purchase from Bio Marine. Are you going
> to want a Haskel $4000.00. Are you going to want a computer $3000.00.
> Sensors are 95.00 a piece life expectancy realistically   9 months
> sometimes more sometimes less. You all ways need 1 or 2 spare in your kit. 
> 
>  
> I don't know what kind of bottles are going to be put on the CCR 500 I
> haven't seen it. 

alum 15cf


If they are the sphere's Nickel Cadnium. They aren't a DOT
> item, therefore unless your dive shop owner/filler is a buddy, filling the
> dilluent bottle with air could require a compressor.  
>  
> For those of you who are interested below is a copy of a check list and log
> for pre-dive inspection on the CCR15.5. This does not include calabration
> set up or scrubber changing or post dive maintenance.  For those of you not
> interested in this sorry for the waste of band width. 
>  


great check list, thanks much, can i use parts of it in my maintenance
manual?  really..


dp


>  
> Heyydude will buy your old used scrubber and burnt out sensors from you. 
>  
> Hope this helps  
>  
>  
> JOHN MCKENNEY    UNIT OWNER 
> PREDIVE CHECK LIST 
> CR155-UBA 
>  
> PROCEDURE      DATE__________________ 
>  
> INSPECT FOR DIRT, DETERIORATION, AND DAMAGE DURING EACH PREDIVE STEP 
>  
> BOTTLE PRESSURE  OXYGEN______DILUENT_______               _____________ 
> SCRUBBER , ACCUM., TIME ON SCRUBBER LOAD_________         _____________ 
> MOISTURE ABSORBERS                       _____________ 
> SENSOR WIRES                             _____________ 
> SENSOR READINGS IN AIR  #1______ #2______ #3______      _____________ 
> CANISTER REINSTALLED                          _____________ 
> MOUTH PIECE  & HOSES                          _____________ 
> BATTERY VOLTAGE        -_______  +_______                     
> _____________ 
> INSTALL BATTERY, PRESSURE RING, BLEED SCREW        _____________ 
>  
> DIVE CHECKLIST 
> INSTALL OXYGEN & DILUENT BOTTLES                   _____________ 
> OPEN DILUENT SHUTOFF VALVE.                   _____________***** 
> TEST DILUENT BYPASS VALVE                          _____________ 
> BOTTOM DIAPHRAGM TO TEST DILUENT ADD VALVE         _____________ 
> TURN UNIT ON                                         _____________ 
> OPEN OXYGEN SHUTOFF VALVE                     _____________***** 
> TEST OXYGEN BYPASS VALVE                           _____________ 
> WHEN SOLENOID STOPS, CHECK PRIMARY FOR "O" LIGHT   _____________ 
> SECONDARY SENSOR READINGS  #1______#2______#3______      _____________ 
> LEAK CHECK 
> TURN UNIT OFF UNTIL DIVE 
>  
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