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Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 11:54:06 GMT
To: rfarb <rfarb@na*.ne*>
From: Tom Mount <TOM.MOUNT@po*.wo*.at*.ne*>
Subject: Re: CCR500
Cc: techdiver@terra.net
At 03:49 AM 6/27/96 +0000, you wrote:
Rod
Right on rebreathers are a valuable tool for those who have a need for them
and they do require extensive training and then many hours on them before
one applies them to a project. i was amazed when I read a article by Bret
Gilliam in Deep Teck, stating any nitrox instructor has the knowledge to
teach rebreathers. I have considerable time on rebreathers over my life span
having used numerous different ones and I still find that to teach a given
unit I need at least 15+ hours on that system and I think one needs a lot of
hours overall on rebreathers prior to teaching them say at least a minimum
of 50 total rebreather hours. plus have training and or experience in
technical diving. they must have excellent diving skills and an indepth
knowledge of diving physiology combined with a complete understanding of the
system they are using.
Tom



Scott, what you have been told is pure wash of hogs. They are imminently 
>servicable, do not require a rebuild before or after every dive. Like all 
>complex pieces of equipment, you must have proper training and most 
>importantly- perhaps the most important thing- is that you must have 
>experience with the unit- many hours- and you must own one personally and 
>use it. The MK16 is not as good a unit for me as the Mk15.5. For the 
>military- it may be great but for what I do it lacks some basic features 
>which I would add to a 16 if I got one which I don't want because I 
>already have a 15.5 that I have configured even further for my use. As a 
>first test of anyone claiming to be a rebreather instructor, ask them if 
>they own a rebreather. If the answer is no- even if there are claims that 
>"I use one from the shop every day"- then tell them they are not a 
>rebreather instructor. When they whip out their rebreather instructor 
>certification card, note the agency and post it on techdiver so we know 
>where we can buy rebreather instructor certification cards from a 
>bullshit agency. Rod
>
>On Wed, 26 Jun 1996, Scott Cherf wrote:
>
>> At 7:23 AM 6/26/96, Dennis Pierce wrote:
>> >it's more like 5k and all parts except the tanks of this unit has over
>> >3.5 million man hours of testing on them all over the world for over
>> >20 years.
>> 
>> Dennis -
>> 
>> Going back a couple of years, I recall long conversations about why the
>> average diver shouldn't consider buying or using surplus military
>> re-breathers (i.e. the Mk16 or Mk15.5) because the units had been designed
>> for use by the military with no concern for servicability.  I know it
>> was said at least once that 'these units require excessive amounts of
>> pre-dive setup'.  Statements like 'you need to almost re-build the units
>> after every dive' were made.
>> 
>> How much of this is still true with the CCR500, and how much of it was
>> hogwash from the start?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Scott.
>> 
>> 
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