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) Subject: george Cc: techdiver@terra.net Cc: cavers@ge*.co* > > >) >Subject: George >To: techdiver@terra.net >Cc: cavers@ge*.co* > >George >In response to a few of your recent post >1. kris >I'm against drunk or stoned driving as much as anyone. I donate money >each year to the fla.HP towards this end. and to a couple of other >organizations. > >What upsets me is the after death bash which only effects the family >and any loved ones he may have had. I think what you did was quite >distasteful and disrepectful towards his survivors, it does not effect >him as he is no longer with us,. > >If you wish to challenge the fact that members of the WKPP do as I do >and have a glass or two and I mean 1 or 2 not more or beer or 2 not >more after work, I will post the names and you can check it out. In >fact I bet you that more than 70% of your folks do this at least >occassionaly, as most tend to be dedicated divers but have some normal >social habits. There is nothing wrong with that as long as it is not >taken beyond a couple of drinks.It does not make them or I less of a >human being. None of us drink while diving and you know that. I do not >ever drink to a point of being drunk but each night after working out, >and after hydrating do have my two glasses of wine and will most likely >do so for the rest of my life. That amount accoring to all the recent >medical articles I have read is even good for you george. > >Now I really do not appreciate your insinuation that I'm a pot smoking >drunk. It is perfectly ok if YOU THINK I'M A COMPLETE ASSHOLE. Because >each is privedledged to have their own opnions. But you know I do not >smoke dope and I most definetly am not a drunk, it would be contrary to >my whole life style. > >If Kris did the things you reference I most likely would have a similar >but less violatiale opnion of him as you do. But even if that were the >case I would not be so disrepectful to post things would damage the >emotions of his family and loved ones. I also am not defending Kris as >I do /did not even know him, but I'm shocked that you state these >things after his death where they only hurt his survivors and have no >effect at all on the person (Kris) they are aimed at. > >Also I do not defend every vagabond. In your own post you list the >people i have spoken up for and in your post you do not at least this >time present them in that light. If I think you unjustly attack someone >just because you do not like them and you try to make them look >inferior on this net to hundreds of people who do not even know these >people then yes if i think they are worthwhile folks or if the facts >are incorrect I will speak up on their behalf. > >Accidents and training agencies. >One you refer to an accident that must have took place recently and I'm >trying to find out about it. I have contacted about four operators to >get details on it. The only accident I have discovered so far was a >girl and a guy diving together non training on the skyclift, she bumped >her head and blacked out the guy took her up to 70 feet or so and >thought she was gone so inflated her bc the surface crew rescued her >and remarkably she was ok , the guy decoed and got bent.Andy told me >about this incident and that is all the details I know. > > >ijust talked to Peter about this also and he was on the boat but the >divers that had the problem were not student of anyone and they were >diving AIR not EANx and Peter was doing trimix. > >You insinuated the same instructor was involved on the accident you >reference as before , I presume the cave incident which you stated was >a training dive which was not it was a dive by a certified cave diver >certified NACD and basic EANx diver who was not in training and again >if this skyclift dive is the incident you are referring to it was a non >training dive and it was not on EANx > >If there was another accident no one I have talked to is aware of it. >if I find out about one I will let you know. George, before you publish >things as gospel take the time to look into them. Just as I'm presently >trying to discover if there was another incident, I heard there may >have been an accident on a private boat but have not been able to >confirm this. > >If you do have details on another accident please let me know as I do >like to stay abreast of these type things. > >Tom > >--WAA22049.835218074/holyrood.ed.ac.uk-- > >
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