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George you have an open invitation, and I think those guys have far more low vis diving experience than you do. As great of a diver as you are you are not one tiny bit better than either of them and do not have the all around excperience either of them has. You are a great scotter diver and have definitely introduced new DPV and towing techniques and technology to the sport and WKPP advances in stage bottle management are admirable. But in what those guys are doing now they are far more qualified and they have already you of a team you wish to dive with to be there. So i guess it is a condition of put up or shut up on this issue. As I said before it is a subject that should be dropped unless an update is posted or someone is inquiring on how they can assist in the search/recovery. So if you are not going to assist and you have no material to post why not just drop the issue. Tom At 11:21 PM 6/6/96 +0000, you wrote: > > Tom, this list is real impressive. When the finsih jerking off give me a call. > Don't tell me WKPP divers went in there, that was Jeff Peterson, and the proper >procedure , and you can tell Poehl, is to call the NACD or CDS safety officer >and get in there, not jerk around with police divers for days. How many IANTD >rebreather instructor trainers does it take, anyway? Tell Tysall I am still >waiting for that other information, and to get off his skinny little ass and >call me. > >On Thu, 6 Jun 1996, Tom Mount <TOM.MOUNT@po*.wo*.at*.ne*> wrote: >> >>Presently the folks who are still searching for the deceased are: >>Terry Tysall : Ex US Navy Seal, IANTD, NSS CDS NACD Cave Diving Instructor, >>IANTD Trimix instructor, Technical EANx instructor trainer, IANTD rebreather >>instructor trainer, one of the two divers to have dived the Fitzergerald(500 >>feet 38degree water), one of the first two divers to have dived the Atlanta >>400 feet, and an allaround very accomplished and highly respected >>professional diver. >> >>Larry Green: A IANTD, NSS CDS and NACD cave instructor, IANTD Trimix >instructor, >>IANTD Technical EANx instructor trainer and IANTD rebreather instructor >>trainer. He has about 18 years of cave diving experience and about 7 years >>of trimix diving experience. He was among the first to ever use trimix in >>caves. Larry is extremeley well respected within the cave and technical >>diving community both as an educator and explorer. >> >>Joe Odom has joined them with rebreathers for searching without creating >>silt. Joe is a TDI trimix instructor trainer and rebreather instructor >>trainer. Joe is a NSS CDS cave diving instructor. >> >>Several others have made numerous dives into the system. >> >>Todate they have grid off the entire cave in 3 foot sections in each >>direction. This is the floor and walls and ceiling, they have searched the >>debris pile, they have used magnometers, they have used the airforces bomb >>detection devices(these were used to try to locate the diver by his metal or >>magnetic signature) They have pushed the instrumentation into the crevices >>that they could not fit into and they have searched the deepest point of 263 >>feet (on trimix 10 50) . Having recovered numerous bodies in my career in >>the 60's and 70's I did the majority of recoveries in caves until I totally >>burned out on it. I would say they have done an outstanding job and >>represent as professional an approach as possible by outstanding >>knowledgeable professional divers, and that very little else could be done. >>Yet they continue with strong dedication. >> >>Every since this effort commenced they have requested all help that could be >>mustered. Larry stated yesterday that they would gladly accept the help of >>George and the pros he refers to. >> >>How about it George are you going to help out? >> >>Tom Mount >> >>At 01:52 AM 6/6/96 +0000, you wrote: >>>Mathias, you are oblviious. The only thing you post is to fuck with me, just >>>like the greaseball hippie. Both of your two bullfrog tits need to get out >>your >>>kneepads. - G >>> >>>On Wed, 5 Jun 1996, mtp@mi*.co* (Matthias Pohl) wrote: >>>>George Irvine wrote: >>>> >>>>> They can not find his body because they refuse to ask the pros to do it. >-G >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>George, >>>> >>>> you are playing your politics over a dead man's body. That's >>>>pretty disgusting and sets a new standard for lowliness in this group. >>>> >>>>/Matthias >>>> >>>>--- >>>>Matthias Pohl >>>>Ph.: (404)266-2179 >>>>Fax: (404)525-2663 >>>>E-Mail: mtp@mi*.co* >>>> >>>>** If You Are Not Living On The Edge, >>>>** You Are Taking Up Too Much Space. >>>>------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >
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