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I realize that BSAC is probably in a class of it's own when it comes to diver training. There is certainly a difference in opinion as to when you are capable of being a safe diver. With many of the U.S. organizations the certification class is supposed to just teach the basics of diving in "conditions similar to those in which you were trained" ( from the NAUI instructor manual and student record folder) and the instructor is supposed to emphasize that. The reality is that many instructors don't want to spend the time teaching their students that there are limitations to what they should do AND there are many people in the US that don't want to accept any limitations on themselves. If an instructor properly emphasizes the limitations of the "Open Water" or "Scuba Diver" class and the student accepts these limitations, then you can see that this simple phrase "in conditions similar to those in which you were trained" severely restricts the diving of the newly certified diver, and can help them safely gain experience while allowing them to get a taste of diving and encouraging them to get more training. I would love it if all divers were trained to the level that BSAC trains beginning divers but as an industry we need to realize also that if that level of training were required then we would not have a very large industry and there would be far fewer dive sites and far less advances in equipment since all of these things are driven by the ability to make a profit. =20 =09I am sure that I will get flamed from some of you that think your way is the only way but that is OK you are entitled to your opinion as much as I am entitled to mine. =20 Alan Chapman=09=09=09=09=09NAUI #10476 achapman@co*.ua*.ed*=09=09=09=09NREMT University of Arkansas Fayetteville =A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5= =A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5= =A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5= =A5=A5 The date that you truly stop learning will be the date printed on your=20 death certificate!!!! =A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5= =A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5= =A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5=A5= =A5=A5 On Wed, 22 May 1996, thorn wrote: > On Wed, 22 May 1996, Jon Breazile wrote: > =20 > > "All of these divers are experienced Assistant Instructors with at leas= t 50 > > dives or more..."=20 > >=20 > > This sounds like an oxymoron to me. We don't even accept students into = our > > advanced class until they have logged at least 25 dives (Northwest wate= rs). > =20 > Some years ago, BS-AC has a similiar policy - to move from the "beginning > level" to a somewhat more "advanced level," one had to complete a minimum > of 20 open water dives in addition to the initial 10 open water qualifyin= g > dives necessary for the "beginning" certification. 30 total. The next > level required a minimum of 100 o/w dives in additional to those required > for the previous certification level. 130 total. >=20 > We aren't even to instructor training yet. (what *is* an asst. instructo= r > - divemaster or ???) >=20 > I don't believe that the certifying agencies such as PADI/NAUI/etc have > quite as high a level of expectation as do some others! >=20 > harve >=20 >=20 > Harve Thorn > TThorn@co*.ua*.ed* >=20 >=20 > -- > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@terra.net'. > Send subscription/archive requests to `techdiver-request@terra.net'. >=20
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