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Date: Thu, 16 May 1996 09:09:06 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Peter N.R. Heseltine" <heseltin@hs*.us*.ed*>
To: George Irvine <gmiiii@in*.co*>
cc: techdiver@terra.net
Subject: Re: New AIDS test - Diver Alert?
George,

Many thanks for your reply - I knew I could count on you!

I didn't intend this to be thread and have received a number of excellent
replies to my post. Basically, George, even "nice & normal" folks (by your
definition) can get AIDS. The virus doesn't care whether you are gay or
straight or whether you use the missionary position. Getting tested
doesn't prevent you from getting infected, but it may prevent your partner
from getting infected and because there is now good treatment available,
it may save your life.

My reasons for posting this on techdiver at all are:

1) Tech divers are in the business of estimating and calculating
life-threatening risks. It's likely they can comprehend and assess the
complicated issues surrounding the risk of acquiring HIV/AIDS better than
many others.

(2) AIDS is spreading fast among people who are unaware that is poses
a risk for them - not so fast among the informed.

(3) Tech divers not only speak to their colleagues, but also to others in
their community of their own ages. Because of their technical expertise in
one area, there is evidence that peers will listen to what they say about
other semi-scientific issues.

(4) If groups/experts other than medical doctors (we have not been very
good at communicating the risks) take this seriously and talk to others,
maybe they'll save a few lives.



On Thu, 16 May 1996, George Irvine wrote:

>
>   Peter, anyone who sucks dicks or takes pail shots , or oherwise behaves in a
> fashion that would get them aids, including using hookers, drugs, or just
> exhibiting the kind of general stupidity that would bring something like this
> on, needs an IQ test, not an aids test. There is no reason to do any of these
> things, and the consequences are self evident.
>
>   This is not "normal" behavior. Real laboratories give real aids test, and in
> fact they are required for all types of insurance these days. I had to have
one
> when I bought a new house. Needless to say, I was not even curious about the
> results, as I have never done anything that would make me even remotely
> susceptible to a disease like this, and anyone who does will have a
predictable
> ending. Behaving this way is like deep diving on air, and that is the only
> comparison here worth mentioning on a diving list.
>
>   This isn't fag diver , it is tech diver. Anyone whose self esteem is in such
> low condition that they must have sex with unidientified partners in third
world
> shit holes needs to get aids, scabees, syphilus, and all of the other
wonderful
> things that go with jungle animal behavior. Get serious , Pete, this is a
> ridiculous and obviously fag-related piece of horseshit you just posted. I'm
not
> calling anybody a cocksucker, but if the shoe fits....
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, 15 May 1996, "Peter N.R. Heseltine" <heseltin@hs*.us*.ed*> wrote:
> >Yesterday the FDA licensed a new test for HIV (AIDS virus) infection. So
> >what has this got to do with tech divers? If you live in the US and are
> >aged between 20 - 45, AIDS is now the no 1 or 2 leading cause of death
> >for your age group. It far exceeds your likelihood of dying in a diving
> >accident. The World Health Organization recognizes that people, especially
> >men, who go travel out of their own country are more likely to have sex
> >with a new partner. Many divers travel.
> >
> >If you have had sex with a new partner since 1975, or had a blood
> >transfusion between 1975 and 1985, or ever shared injection needles with
> >anyone, you should get tested for HIV infection. For people who prefer
> >not to go to their doctor or a test center, the new home access test
> >offers you the opportunity to get tested in private, anonymously and
> >conveniently.
> >
> >I have served as a medical advisor to the developers of the test, but I
> >have no financial interest in them or the test. Having seen it in action,
> >I am impressed that the counseling you get (by phone) after the test is
> >of very good quality. The test will be available in Florida and Texas
> >very soon and in other States in a few months. If you want more info -
> >e-mail me privately at the address below.
> > 	 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
> >	| Get tested - save a life - it could be your own.|
> >
> >Peter Heseltine
> >heseltin@hs*.us*.ed*
> >
> >--
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> >
> >
>


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