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Date: Tue, 14 May 1996 10:43:26 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Peter N.R. Heseltine" <heseltin@hs*.us*.ed*>
To: Dennis Pierce <epic@so*.ha*.ed*>
cc: 72650.220@co*.co*, cgh@ma*.ai*.mi*.ed*, chris@ab*.co*,
     darwin@co*.sp*.tr*.co*, hgartner@ra*.or*, huggins@mi*.us*.ed*,
     lungs@ic*.ne*, mcochran@ne*.co*, ramsdenr@cs*.or*.za*,
     scuba@ma*.ne*, smwixson@in*.co*, techdiver@terra.net
Subject: Re: Rebreather: Drager Atlantis

On Wednesday, 1 May 1996 Dennis Pierce wrote:

>> because it doesn't use oxygen as the source - most closed units do - if
>> you observe the MOD of your nitrox mixture (typically 112' for EAN32%).
 
>i think you need to go back to your books again.

>> This depends on what you consider your safe pPO2. I am a sport diver so
>> while others might consider a pPO2 of 1.4 ATA (112 fsw) acceptable on
>> EAN32%, my own choice is to use an MOD of 100 fsw for this gas. i.e., a
>> pO2 of 1.29 ATA. However most nitrox courses teach 112 fsw as the 
>> absolute MOD for EAN32%.

>sure you arent talking about 36%

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Dennis,

EAN32% @ 100'fsw = 1.29 ATA pPO2, @ 112'fsw = 1.40 ATA pPO2
EAN36% @ 100'fsw = 1.45 ATA pPO2, @ 112'fsw = 1.58 ATA pPO2

The NOAA table stops at 1.6 ATA and implies this as the maximal
permissable pPO2 exposure, but this limit has much more to do with
pulmonary toxicity than CNS toxicity, despite the term CNS clock. 

Convulsions have been reported at exposures to pPO2s of 1.3 ATA (US Navy
Divers Manual - 1995 revision). While it may be a matter of choice or risk
acceptance for the informed diver, recreational nitrox courses do not
customarily teach divers to plan a decompression dive. For this reason
pulmonary toxicity is rarely an issue for these divers to consider. The
NOAA Nitrox I table gives a 20 min NDL @ 130'. This is a pPO2 of 1.59 ATA
and 25 mins shorter than the NOAA single exposure limit of 45 mins. Even
doing multiple dives in a day, most divers keeping to the NDL limits would
find it difficult to exceed the NOAA 24 hour exposure limit of 2.5 hours. 

So CNS safety is the issue: why would you teach a student to dive at a pPO2
which could result in an low-frequency, high risk event? i.e., a
convulsion and probable/certain death. For the recreational nitrox diver,
who does not have to accept a higher pPO2 to speed up decompression, it
doesn't make sense to me to assume this risk for the sake of going a few
feet deeper. I stand by what I said and was taught (Steve Hoffman, PSA was
my instructor): A prudent MOD for recreational nitrox divers using
EAN32 is 100', i.e., a pPO2 of <1.3 ATA. PSA recommends a limit of 1.4 ATA 
for "dives involving thermal stress or physical exertion, becasue these 
increase the risk of O2 toxicity". Do IANTD or TDI recommend differently?

Regards,

Peter Heseltine

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