It is a shame that WKPP is having the problems they are. There seems to be little doubt, in the minds of the majority on this list, that they are at the fore front of deep cave exploration. The input on this list from such a knowledgable group will be missed. However, perhaps there is a silver lining behind the cloud hovering over Talahassee right now! Active participation on this list by a wider, more diversified group of divers may result. Many, I suspect, have been hesitant to voice opinions and ask questions out of fear of starting another flame war. Additionally, assuming that WKPP's rival team is using posts copied from 'techdiver' and 'cavers' in their attack, when the members of WKPP return, (do any of you really doubt they'll be back?) perhaps they'll be a "kinder, gentler" group of participants. So cheer up. Share some knowledge or ask some questions. There are plenty of us "weenie diving" newcomers waiting to learn! Regards, Bob
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