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Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1996 09:36:39 -0400
To: iantdhq@ix*.ne*.co* (IANTD )
From: dlv@ga*.ne* (Dan Volker)
Subject: Re: DEATHS WILL BE FAULT OF POLITICIANS!
Cc: techdiver@terra.net
Tom Wrote:
>snip--
>I will not tell them you will kick sand in their face as one of them is 
>a 4th dan and would most likely rub your head in it.

Tom,
Since Kickboxing was my main competitive sport before I got into cycling (my 
present one), and I still work out in the ring occasionally, chances are 
good your 4th dan (translation of 4th dan---he dances alot in the mirror 
(katas) but could not fight his way out of a paper bag), I insist you tell 
him and their group I'll kick sand in their faces.

Dan

>
snip-
>>
>>Tom,
>>As I see it, what they did was so BULLSHIT, I have zero respect for 
>them, 
>>and anyone associated with them. 
>>And  you can tell any of them, I'll kick sand in their face any time I 
>see them.
>>Dan
>>
>>>Dan
>>>It is intresting to note that you attack divers that you do not know, 
>
>>>have never dived with and are totally unaware of their real skills.
>>>
>>>Nothing to do with Wakulla but, Wes skiles is well respected by the 
>>>cave community overall. He also has more than 20 years of cave diving 
>
>>>experience and is active cave diving as evidenced by the recent 
>mexico 
>>>film. Why don't you check with Mike Madden on his abilities and 
>skills. 
>>>Wes has some rather major accomplishments under his belt. 
>>>
>>>Jim King is a safe and overall respected cave diver and is a good 
>cave 
>>>diver he too has made some rather interesting dives.
>>>
>>>Bill Stone is a caver and from all I can gather from people who dive 
>>>with him a good cave diver.I do not know him well enough to really 
>give 
>>>an opnion, but others do. 
>>>

>>>>
>>>>Sounds like its time for EVERYONE ON THE LISTS to begin telling the 
>>>REAL 
>>>>TRUTH  about the proficiency levels of  Bill Stone, Jim King, Wes 
>>>Skiles and 
>>>>their buddies....and no punches should be pulled. 
>>>>
>>>>The top ranking politicians should get the opportunity to know how 
>>>little 
>>>>respect Stone, King and Skiles et al have with their peers, through 
>>>>printouts of the tech and cavers list we can all mail to them.
>>>>
>>>>I'll start this by saying categorically that  George would be safer 
>>>with a 
>>>>single 80 and diving solo, than these half wits would be in full  
>cave 
>>>dress...
>>>>
>>>>How many polititians are going to  want to "create" AND BE 
>>>"RESPONSIBLE FOR" 
>>>>cave diving deaths, by allowing horrifyingly incompetent strokes to 
>>>dive in 
>>>>places they are unlikely to survive-----
>>>>
>>>>We should ALL GO ON RECORD AS STATING THAT IF STONE, SKILES ET AL GO 
>
>>>IN TO 
>>>>WAKULLA, THE DEATHS WILL BE LARGELY THE FAULT OF POLITITCIANS  WHO 
>>>SIDED 
>>>>WITH THE "MOMA'S BOYS" OVER THE BIGGER BOYS WHO CALLED THEM 
>>>WIMPS....WOULD 
>>>>THESE SAME POLITICIANS SEND 12 YEAR OLD CHILDREN TO BATTLE IN 
>FOREIGN 
>>>WARS, 
>>>>OR PARAPLEGICS, OR RETARDED PEOPLE??? WHERE WILL THEY DRAW THE 
>LINE!!! 
>>>
>>>>The issue at hand is not how "Nice" George is to people who say 
>>>foolish 
>>>>things, or even if he has made "nasty" slurs----the issue is,  "who 
>>>will be 
>>>>safest, when exploring one of the most dangerous penetrations this 
>>>>government is in a position to be responsible for"....Obviously the 
>>>safest 
>>>>and best group is WKPP, and "moma's boy" tactics by Stone and Skiles 
>
>>>should 
>>>>not be allowed to get them into Wakulla.
>>>>
>>>>Dan
Dan Volker
SOUTH FLORIDA DIVE JOURNAL
"The Internet magazine for Underwater Photography and mpeg Video"
http://www.florida.net/scuba/dive
407-683-3592

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