This is, in short, a tragedy. Although I manily lurk on techdiver and cavers, there have been times when I have asked questions and gotten prompt, serious, correct, and sometimes even courteous answers to my questions from WKPP members. They have, as a whole, helped me understand the intricaies of cave and tech diving better than anyone, and I DO NOT want to see them go. As one of Carl's "up and coming cave divers", it bothers me that politics of this sort, ie mudslinging, has once again made it into the diving arena. Now I have to sit back and watch two of my mentor groups go head-to-head in a contest to see who gets to map a cave. I expected better from Mr. Skiles, but I guess we all get let down occassionally. To the WKPP members: PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE stay around! You are the most able body of cave divers around, and the information and service you provide to those of us still in the early stages of learning is invaluable! Admittingly, this transgression cannot go unnoticed, but is this the only way to settle this? I sincerely hope not. To the three divers pending approval: Fuck you. Your names were among the divers that I most admired. My fault. Bring in all the SMD posts you want, just make sure you edit out the parts where WKPP divers helped us newer divers. You wouldn't want to make the top cave diving and exploration team in the US, if not the world, look good after everything they had done for all of us. Seeing such posts as these come over my e-mail saddens me greatly. Well, let the divers invloved in the approval try to start a pissing contest, if they like. Hopefully, WKPP will be recognized for the excellent organization it is, and not associated with this crap. In the meantime, I'll follow Carl in his recommendation not to purchase from companies who support (directly or indirectly) activities like this. And I'll make sure that all the cavers around here who aren't on this list get the message, too. This is all I have to say about it. --Andrew At 12:50 PM 4/24/96 -0400, Carl Heinzl wrote: >Once again the ugly head of politics has risen to silence those people >who would provide us with their knowledge and experience gained over >the past several years. "When I use a word, it means exactly what I intend it to mean and nothing else!" -Tweedledee
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