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Date: Wed, 24 Apr 1996 15:04:28 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Eric Zimmerman (BIO)" <ezimmerm@ch*.ca*.us*.ed*>
To: Carl Heinzl <cgh@ma*.ai*.mi*.ed*>
cc: cavers@ge*.co*, techdiver@terra.net
Subject: Re: Politics has struck again...


> I'm sure most of you are not yet aware of this, however, Bill Stone,
> Jim King, Wes Skiles, et al have submitted a proposal to do
> exploration at Wakulla (one of the primary WKPP sites).

	fine, not a problem-thier tax money is also spent to maintain
	the park and services- they have the right to submit anything 
	they want to the powers that be. The park service then has the 
	responsibility to dertermine the value and cost of the proposal
	and act on "our" best interests-
				...I wonder who knows the park service
					people really well....

  
> they are taking numerous printouts of cavers and techdiver postings to
> high ranking government officials in an attempt to discredit WKPP and
> have their permits revoked.

	now this is the most stupid thing that anybody could do to try 
	and gain entrance to an area- show them all the complaints of how 
	little they acomplished and how much the "bad guys have...
	I believe in giving the respect that the "firsts" in any area 
	deserve, they did work in unproven areas of mixed gas and
	some rebreather work.


> This type of action could not and should not go without public
> scrutiny.  I will personally write to any manufacturer that uses
> people like this in their advertisements and inform them that because
> of their actions, I will no longer purchase their equipment.  For
> example, I believe Dive Rite uses Wes Skiles in their Transpac ads,
> and I believe they are online here as well so, notice is served.  I
> suggest that others do the same.

	this is the worst part, my folks just wanted quiet-no fights
	no hassles- so when one kid started crap, that one got punished,
	when both were involved and neither would stop, both were punished
	and even the folks ended up unhappy--
	If this shit causes any divers to lose or not gain access,
        then everybody loses-and I'm already pissed about other stuff
	this is not helping me-at all.

	as far as companies being involved, they realize the bottom line
	is that they get more from those will work with them than those
	who won't, so -think $ when you think biz- if they see $ they 
	will come around, or did we forget that new design for a light 
	that would be bought if it was better than the old one-$$$

 
> However, there is a good body of up and coming cavers out there who
> have been trained by the best cave divers out there such as Steve
> Berman and Jarrod Jablonski and others.  We will not let the questions
> on the list go unanswered or the list to go silent.


	SO MUCH FOR SITIN' ON YOUR DRY ASS, GO OUT AND LEARN FOR 
	YOURSELF (with an instructor, of course)

	everybody is welcome to the party, it is the assholes that
	get the cops called-EZ

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