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Sounds like its time for EVERYONE ON THE LISTS to begin telling the REAL TRUTH about the proficiency levels of Bill Stone, Jim King, Wes Skiles and their buddies....and no punches should be pulled. The top ranking politicians should get the opportunity to know how little respect Stone, King and Skiles et al have with their peers, through printouts of the tech and cavers list we can all mail to them. I'll start this by saying categorically that George would be safer with a single 80 and diving solo, than these half wits would be in full cave dress... How many polititians are going to want to "create" AND BE "RESPONSIBLE FOR" cave diving deaths, by allowing horrifyingly incompetent strokes to dive in places they are unlikely to survive----- We should ALL GO ON RECORD AS STATING THAT IF STONE, SKILES ET AL GO IN TO WAKULLA, THE DEATHS WILL BE LARGELY THE FAULT OF POLITITCIANS WHO SIDED WITH THE "MOMA'S BOYS" OVER THE BIGGER BOYS WHO CALLED THEM WIMPS....WOULD THESE SAME POLITICIANS SEND 12 YEAR OLD CHILDREN TO BATTLE IN FOREIGN WARS, OR PARAPLEGICS, OR RETARDED PEOPLE??? WHERE WILL THEY DRAW THE LINE!!! The issue at hand is not how "Nice" George is to people who say foolish things, or even if he has made "nasty" slurs----the issue is, "who will be safest, when exploring one of the most dangerous penetrations this government is in a position to be responsible for"....Obviously the safest and best group is WKPP, and "moma's boy" tactics by Stone and Skiles should not be allowed to get them into Wakulla. Dan > >Fellow Cavers, > >Once again the ugly head of politics has risen to silence those people >who would provide us with their knowledge and experience gained over >the past several years. > >I'm sure most of you are not yet aware of this, however, Bill Stone, >Jim King, Wes Skiles, et al have submitted a proposal to do >exploration at Wakulla (one of the primary WKPP sites). To this end, >they are taking numerous printouts of cavers and techdiver postings to >high ranking government officials in an attempt to discredit WKPP and >have their permits revoked. > >In order to avoid future controversy, several members of the WKPP have >requested to be taken off of the cavers list and I have been informed >that they have already unsubscribed from techdiver. I'd bet that the >rest will follow shortly. I doubt that we'll be hearing from them any >time soon. > >This type of action could not and should not go without public >scrutiny. I will personally write to any manufacturer that uses >people like this in their advertisements and inform them that because >of their actions, I will no longer purchase their equipment. For >example, I believe Dive Rite uses Wes Skiles in their Transpac ads, >and I believe they are online here as well so, notice is served. I >suggest that others do the same. > >However, there is a good body of up and coming cavers out there who >have been trained by the best cave divers out there such as Steve >Berman and Jarrod Jablonski and others. We will not let the questions >on the list go unanswered or the list to go silent. > >-Carl- > >Just think... Hogarthian > > > >-- >Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@terra.net'. >Send subscription/archive requests to `techdiver-request@terra.net'. > > Dan Volker SOUTH FLORIDA DIVE JOURNAL "The Internet magazine for Underwater Photography and mpeg Video" http://www.florida.net/scuba/dive 407-683-3592
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