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From: <SATURN.DDRAKE05@gm*.co*>
To: "techdiver(a)terra.net" <techdiver@terra.net>
Subject: George/Tom/Tanks and bouyancy
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 05:22:40 -0400
     As has been stated, why is a Al tank better for staging when it floats
     when it is empty, but back mounts should be negative when empty?
     Did I miss a post?  What is the big deal?

     When I wreck dive, the stage/travel tanks is on me all the time as are
     my back mounts.  If I take floaters on my back and as deco, I'm
     floating at the end and need weight. If I take all steels, I'm putting
     extra gas in my wings.  My solution is to mix, i.e. one set of tanks
     (either mounts or decos) are negative and the other set positive
     empty.  They balance out and I keep my drysuit inflated only enough to
     provide comfort.  Little if any weight is needed this way.

     So, I could dive double Al 80s or Gen. 120s on my back and 72s for
     deco/travel or 104s/ OMS 120s for back mount and Al for deco.  Most
     shops won't overfill and neither will the majority of truely portable
     compressors so you get 104 cf or whatever the tank is rated to once
     you're away from home and your source of gas.  So what's the big deal
     with the boat anchor back mounts?  I have a temperamental back.  The
     less I strain it, the longer I dive.  104s hanging off me in high seas
     whilst I breast feed and grab onto the pitching boat ladder with a
     wing and a prayer is not my idea of being safe, fun or nice to my
     back.  I'd rather hand up the 72s or OMS 40s (loosing the extra
     weight) and get in with the lighter Gen 120s or Al 80s and DR
     manifold.

     How bout it G-man or anyone else.  What makes the floaters better for
     stages and the anchors better for back mounts?  Why shouldn't they be
     reversed when wreck diving as in above when you can't get overfills or
     don't want to lug your own compressor along or be carrying two anchors
     onto the boat while trying to get up and in during the high seas?????

     I know a studly answer is to work out and strengthen everything so the
     heavy tanks aren't an issue. However, that will not change the fact
     that the more massive tank will require more effort to support and
     move quickly.  This creates a safety issue on getting into the boat
     after a deco.  Do you or do you not want to add 30+ lbs hanging off
     your back pitching as the furthest point out on the boat while you're
     trying to get up the ladder?  Think it might contribute to your work
     load and the chance of bubble formation as well as the ladder failing
     as it takes you and your tank's weight from the 10+ ft fall from the
     last crest and tries to send you back skyward for a repeat?

     Do you want to be nailed when a wave pushes the boat back on your head
     'cause you couldn't move fast enough with the double anchors on your
     back??? If you're an air-sucking hog and need the extra gas, start the
     workouts and breathing exercises.  If not and the gas supply isn't the
     issue, then why the anchors?  Got anyone to haul 'em up for you like the
     hands do the anchors?

     For those who want to breast feed off me, SMD.  Sorry if any ladies are
     offended.  Offended men should have already unsubscribed per George.
     Women who are offended that they should be treated differently, this
     SMDs for you, lighten up.

     Humor and trash asside, what's the scoop?  Obi one, how 'bout you, you
     may not be as cave blind as others.

     David Drake
     Spring Hill, TN  USA    Internet: saturn.ddrake05@gm*.co*


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