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Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 21:40:56 +0000 (MULTINET_TIMEZONE)
From: georgeirvine@ic*.co* (George Irvine)
Subject: CDS AGREEMENT
To: cavers@ge*.co*
Cc: techdiver@terra.net

      Today in conversatons with Lamar Hires, CDS Chairman, Dave Miner 
of WKPP 
and The Twin Dees / Weeki Watchie Project was able to finally come to an
 
agreement we all can live with:

      Miner will be our (WKPP's) representative to the CDS B.O.D. and 
general 
Membership, and the CDS will support the activities of the WKPP, both in
 spirit 
and wherever else they can, such as assisting us with Project needs of a
 generic 
nature designed to furthur our goal of research and exploration.

      In turn, we will report our results to the CDS with emphasis on 
articles 
and maps which show how , where and why. I will do this. Jarrod 
Jablonski will 
advise the training committee on any findings we discover in the course 
of deep 
diving activites which he feels would be of value to the membership in 
the 
interest of training and dive safety.

       This should put an abrupt end to the bickering, and a beginning 
to 
cooperation that can only prove benficial to diving, cave-diving, and 
the 
environment we conduct this activity in. Parker and Gavin tried to do 
this, but 
it was just not possible in the old days where so few people were 
involved. WKPP 
now boasts 70 members, so we are a more open group than ever before, and
 as such 
can be better understood.

       I will say that this in no way changes our strict adherence to 
our own 
rules and regs, and in no way diminishes my belief that we are doing 
things in 
the best and safest possible manner, at the exclusion of all other 
techniques 
presently being practiced. This is my opinion, these are our rules. No 
more, no 
less. Any time I become aware of new information to improve on this, I 
will 
impliment it right away.

        Lamar and others do not want to argue this, as it is 
counter-productive, 
and makes people look bad based on thier arguing skills, rather than 
their 
excellent track record, as is the case with Lamar. Besides, we don't 
care 
anyway. We have said our piece on the hose, on neatness, etc, so we will
 
concentrate future discussion on the details that are more important to 
all 
divers, leaving the obvious just as it is - obvious.

         We will attend CDS meetings, and contribute accordingly . Two 
of our 
divers are already on the Board, and the rest I am sure will calm down 
once the 
smoke clears. We also understand from Lamar that Wayne Marshall did not 
recommend a withdrawl of our Project status, he was merely asking what 
it was, 
and quesioning why we were critcicising the CDS if we were an NSS 
project.
This makes sense, as I saw Wayne at Tek, and he said nothing about it - 
to him I 
appologize for my response.

          The answer is that we were criticising people who are no 
longer with 
the Board, and we disagreeed with a few things that are no longer a 
problem. The 
CDS will now list us as a CDS Project, list us in UWS showing me as 
Director, 
and make room for our information in each issue. 

           This would not be possible without Hires at the helm, and for
 this we 
are grateful. 

          George Irvine , Project Director , Woodville Karst Plain 
Project 
       

      

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