At TEK, the Scubapro rep told me that the industry wants all nitrox contained in, and breathed through nitrox dedicated, incompatible-with-air components. I'm sure that uninformed consumers will jump on the bandwagon when their instructors tell them that using an air regulator with EANx32 will lead to Ox Tox and explosion. Already many nitrox fill stations will not pump even PREMIX EANx 32 or 36 into customers' tanks if they are not O2 cleaned. We should see the writing on the wall. They want our money. Andy Cohen ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Further to debate earlier this year - I have again heard more details on the probability of the CEN (a european Standards body) introducing a new pillar valve and regulator for Scuba diving with Nitrox. The current plan is to base it on a German O2 Ambulance system - this has a inverted DIN style - the pillar valve has the threaded part of the din which does not rotate (as on Std Din Regs) - the reg first stage has a female DIN section which screws over the valve -> Pillar Valve ---- ---- | |-- | \/\/\ | | | | | <- | | | First Stage | /\/\/ | |-- | | |____| If this is adopted this would mean all Nitrox Divers in Europe would need to change cylinder valves and get first stages modified - It also means total dedication of equipment - in that Air regulators could not be used on these cylinders and vica versa. I for one would have to double up on all equipment as I dive in the USA a lot and would need either Yoke or "normal" DIN regs as well as this new system. In addition my info source informs me that the Pillar valve DIN does not look strong and may not take a wreck or cave roof thump very well. Apparently this system is already in use in the Drager Rebreather Does anyone else have any info on this - is it just manufacture BS ?? Are the Agencies involved in advising CE what a unpractical idea it is (IANTD/TOM - do you know anything??) GD
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