> Then stop fighting George's battle for him. He's the one who > ----------------- > Mike, you guys don't get it , do you? If you are enough of an asshole to > attack Sankey, I will stuff it donw your throat. Our irritation with all of you > guys is the fact that all of you want to argue with us, No George, it is you that doesn't get it. Please find *ANY* post of mine where I argue with the WKPP dive techniques. Can't find one huh? What you will find over the past months is me posting mostly for 2 reasons: -asking that people try and maintain some semblance of civility -asking that all the damn fake messages stop Now if either of these two requests seems to attack the WKPP then that's your problem. Frankly unless somehow the WKPP is responsible for either of the two above things, then I can't see how they should feel attacked. Also don't lump me with or without anyone else commenting on this issue. I fully intend all my arguments to stand on their own. I fight my own battles. > but none of you want to state any facts, or even talk about diving. As for talking about diving, I'd love to talk about diving. My own experience is very limited to the WKPP, I have no problem admitting that. At the same time over the past few years (as a techdiver subscriber) I have been able to answer some diving questions and help out fellow subscribers. I am not, however, going to sit down, track down references, and write a reply when I think the original post is a fake by someone with nothing better to do than try to waste my time for their own damn personal enjoyment. That is why I want the fakes to stop. As for PGP, I don't like it. I don't want any of it. I think its a pain in the ass. I think the fakes are MORE of a pain in the ass. If something like PGP is the only way to stop them then maybe it should be tried. Personally I'd rather the fakes stop. Unfortunately the fakes are beyond my control. Are they within yours? Recently we traded email on the idea of putting some kind of authentication on the cavers list to reduce the number of fakes. You claimed to me (and to others publicly) that you could fake/beat anything. Well as you always say, its time to step up and pet the pony. Very simple George, can you live up to your boast and produce a faked PGP message that passes muster? You have no mercy on anyone else who makes a boast (and then can't back it up). Why do you expect others to treat you to less than the same standard. *YOU* made it the issue. *YOU* said PGP was stupid (gay I think you said) and defeatable. Again I don't like it. But I like the fakes even less. > We have our on PGP , it is called "freeattic". There we have no strokes, no > pot-smoking pontificators, no weeenies, and no rules - we don't need them. Fine, you've said you guys have your own list. Fake on that (if you must). You can fake away there and present your weekly award over sushi. Don't waste everyone (on cavers and techdiver) else's time with it. > You guys are the problem, we don't have any of this crap on our lists, and hmm, WHO is the problem? ME? Are you saying *I* am faking messages? Am I posting bogus dive information? No, I am asking that the faking stop. Simple. Nothing more, nothing less. Mike
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