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Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 05:52:45 -0800
From: iantdhq@ix*.ne*.co* (IANTD )
Subject: Re: iT'S ME AGAIN
To: Greg Pynes <wrlddive@if*.ne*>
Cc: cavers@ge*.co*
Cc: techdiver@terra.net
Greg, 
good question!Obiviously your martial arts style is prudent in its 
emphasis on breathing technique. On the subject of forced exhalation 
and forced inhalation, I think it is not a problem while you are at 
depth. It could/ would produce a problem if done while changing depths.

When I teach breathing I teach to exhale fully, but without forced 
exhalation, same on inspiration. I have good gas consumption doing this 
and beleive it results in much better ventilation as the gas gets into 
the lowere third of the lungs where the majority of circulation is(on 
land).
What I advocate is 6 to 12 seconds in , no pause (max of 2 to 3 seconds 
is acceptable), same exhalation cycle. 

The next step is just as we do in martial arts is to develop the 
discipline to maintain this pattern even under extreme exertion. In 
martial arts while fighting, and when doing exercise, while at the 
maximum point of exertion. Trick is to bring in more volume under 
exercise without an increas in rate. this of course results in more 
survival discipline as well due to being able to force the body and 
mind to do what at first is not its normal habit of comfort zone.

Ususally when i start people on this program they at first say it is 
not possible, then 2 to 3 months later ,I get an excited call with a 
YOU KNOW IT REALLY WORKS, AND I HAVE CUT MY GAS CONSUMPTION DOWN 
CONSIDERABLY.
I have spelled this out because I plan to post it to cavers as there 
has been a discussion on gas consumption going on there. I know you 
already understand the mechanics I pointed out.

Note! While I have quite good gas consumption, even with all my 
practice I have not reached the 0.3 cubic foot of swimming gas 
consumption that I saw soneone over on compuserve claiming to have. A 
small lady such as my wife may get to this extreme or a practiced 
breather at rest but swimming I really doubt a male over a 160 pound 
body weight can get that low of an exeretion RMV.
Tom Mount
You wrote: 
>
>Tom, Here is my question about breathing!
>
>I have studied a chinese martial art for about 10 years now and have 
been 
>using the breathing exercises in my diving. My question is this , when 
you 
>are breathing a gas under pressure and you are breathing using a 
>breathing style that deflates the lung forcefully does the lung suffer 
any 
>stress from the pressuer differance in the gas and your overdeflated 
>lungs???
>
>
>

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