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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 96 22:06 GMT
From: kweller@ci*.co*.co*.uk* (Kevin Weller)
Subject: Re: Up reels
To: techdiver@terra.net
In-Reply-To: <960211090107_419786861@em*.ma*.ao*.co*>

<< Gee, let me see. I'm on a dive where the boat roams free and picks up 
the divers as they surface. During the dive, another diver surfaces 
severely bent. The boat gets the diver. Boat calls coast guard to 
evacuate, ETA is 45 minutes, but the boat captain decides that he can 
take the diver to port in 30 minutes, so off he goes. Yes, abandoning 
the remaining divers in the water. You surface using your ascent, me 
using my ascent line. Current is 2 knots. I'm stationary, in the same 
location that the boat will come back to first. You, out to sea. >>

I've lurked here for some time and learned a lot. I don't consider 
myself a 'technical' diver and wouldn't presume to comment on the 
majority of threads on here; I'm just a recreational diver who feels he 
can learn from this forum. OTOH I *do* use a DSMB and I *do* dive 
regularly in UK waters and what this quote says is bollocks. 

So let *me* see - you're diving in the middle of the English Channel, a 
diver comes up bent and the skipper decides to head back to shore to get 
him in a chamber. Wow! what a great idea. So in an attempt to save 1 
diver the skipper decides to leave the 10 or so other divers in one of 
the busiest stretches of water in the world, and, of course, none of 
these divers, on surfacing has any idea what the hell is going on (I 
assume the skipper knows, by some divine message, that there aren't going 
to be any more bent divers?). *If* the skipper escapes charges it would 
be the last time he ever took any divers out. You're suggesting *we* live 
in a dream world :~O. 

What would happen in the real world is that the bent diver would be 
put on oxygen, a call would be made to the coastguard and all the other 
divers would be recalled (you *do* carry a diver recall don't you?). The 
bent diver would get back to shore via coastguard or dive boat full of 
divers, whichever could get him there first. You're obviously not 
watching enough Star Trek <g> - the needs of the one are out-weighed by 
the needs of the many. 

And please, don't come back and tell me about all the other divers being 
down at 300 metres for 2 days and needing loads of deco; and I don't care 
how many dives you've done over however many years in however many caves. 
It doesn't alter the basic tenet - a skipper should not abandon divers in 
the water, whatever the reason.

<< And if you don't like the scenario with the bent diver, try a boat 
with an engine that no longer runs. there are plenty of realistic 
scenarios. >>

This, I'll grant you, can be a problem. The only solution, if the divers 
can't get to the boat, being to call the Coastguard.

Flame away <g>.

Kevin

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