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Joel Writes: > Ken, > > No, actually I believe that you have it wrong. Once again you have read an > obviously bogus E-mail with my name attached to it and immediately assumed > it to be genuine. I don't know Bill Dooley, I only marginally know the name, > so I certainly would have no reason or desire to call him any names. I also > unsubscribed from Cavers and Techdiver over a week ago. > I now access both through this account. I sit here red faced. Two others (John Crea and Carl Heinzl) pointed out the same before you to me in private email. I don't have all the time in the world to authenticate each and every piece of email, I just immediatly assumed you sent that out and I was just trying to correct the information in the message. > I sympathize with your problems on Cavers and I regret that you felt it > necessary to close it down once more, I see that Carl has decided to bring > it back up again and I applaud his efforts. He also makes the statement that > he reserves the right to dump folks who engage in flaming and inappropriate > behavior--I hope he really means that. You guys have had your hands full > dealing with the complaints, the fake E-mail and the general day-to-day BS > that must surely have been the case with Cavers as things got out of hand. > For what it's worth, I was never any part of any faked E-mail. I approached > Cavers and Techdiver from the beginning in the same way I approached CIS' > Tech & Cave Sections, with respect, good humor and sincerity. I hope that > Techdiver and Cavers both will evolve into what they _can_ be, forums for > mature, interesting, funny and vigorous debate information about issues that > concern all divers and even non-divers interested in cave and technical diving. > > I know that there are a number of folks online that would like to be an > active part of this online community but don't participate out of a > concern about bogus E-mail, flames and general abuse. I like the rough edges > on both lists, but I think just about everyone would agree that what has > been going on is not what is wanted or needed. > > Best of Luck, > > JoeL E-Mail is nothing. It means nothing. I have heard the same comments from others about wishing to keep their voices quiet for fear of being flamed. They need to realize that this is bullshit, it isn't the real world, and no one gives a flying f--- about anything posted on here. Happy Deco, Ken -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Ken Sallot "Mock me if you like but don't mock the gods!" CIRCA - Joe Nightengale kens@uf*.ed* (352) 392-2007 http://grove.ufl.edu/~ken -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
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