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Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 08:22:50 -1000 (HST)
From: Richard Pyle <deepreef@bi*.bi*.Ha*.Or*>
To: john.r.strohm@BI*.co*
Cc: techdiver@terra.net
Subject: Re: Rebreather questions
> Richard, I missed something somewhere in there.
> 
> It is my understanding that a fully-closed-circuit rebreather has to
> compensate for respiration of oxygen into carbon dioxide and for ascents
> and descents.  I sort of had the idea somewhere that the former required an
> oxygen sensor, because you (a) don't want to wind up with a counterlung
> full of diluent and you (b) don't want to push your ppO2 over 1.4 ATA or
> so.
> 
> How does the MkV get around this?  Or what is it doing that it can be said
> that it is not dependent on electronics?

It's not just the Mk-5 - this is true of most fully closed rebreathers.  
The advantages of the Mk5 are the things that reduce the probability of 
ever experiencing a total electronics failure.  I could spend megabytes 
explaining the series of recovery options that take place between a totally 
functioning rig and a total loss of all electronics.  But for the 
interest of brevity, let's cut straight to the big one - total 
electronics failure (including all three sensors).

The naive person will say you have no idea what's in the breathing loop, 
so you'll probably soon die of O2 toxicity or hypoxia.  But you CAN know, 
at least within some margin of error, what the mixture is.

Here's what you've got to work with:

- At least two known gas mixtures - oxygen and a diluent (the latter 
has a known fraction of oxygen in it and is breathable at maximum depth 
of the dive).

- Two known loop volumes - The volume when the counterlungs are bottomed 
out on a full inhalation (we'll call this "low", and the volume when the 
counterlungs are fully inflated on full exhalation (we'll call this 
"high"). For most rebreathers, the "low" volume is more than half of the 
"high" volume.

- A rough idea of how much O2 you need to manually inject to keep the PO2 
within breathable ranges during a direct ascent (you've worked this out 
during your many, many practice dives).

Therefore, you have access to at least four breathing gases:

1) 100% diluent
2) A mix of 100% diluent when the volume is "low", plus the amount of oxygen 
it takes to make the volume "high".
3) A mix of 100% oxygen when the volume is "low", plus the amount of 
diluent it takes to make the volume "high".
4) 100% oxygen.


Given these, plus the fact that you know the only loss to loop volume not 
associated with depth change is due to O2 metabolism, you can farily 
easily (with a lot of practice - i.e., a well-programmed brain) get 
yourself out of any situation.

Here's an example:

You're on a decompression dive and you loose all of your O2 sensors.  You 
know the mix was breathable when you lost the electronics, so you start 
your abort.  If you're in a cave and have to swim horizontally for a long 
distance, you simply maintain the loop volume at whatever it presently is 
by adding O2 manually.  If you're in open water and begin your ascent, 
then you periodically add O2 manually to keep the O2 with a safe window 
(it's a pretty damn big window, when you think about it).  When you arrive 
at your first decompression stop, you have four mixtures to choose from 
(described above).  If it's Mix 1, you just flush the loop with diluent 
and maintain te loop volume with O2 injections.  If it's mix 2, then you 
flush the loop with diluent, then drop the loop volume to "low" 
(counterlungs bottoming out on full inhalation), then fill the 
counterlungs with oxygen until they are totaly full on full exhalation, 
then allow the gases to mix for a few breaths, then vent off loop gas 
until the total volume is comfortable to breathe.  The you replace any 
drop in volume over time with manual O2 injections.  You follow your 
decompression stops (Open circuit decompression schedules, based on your 
four known mixes that you calculated in advance with some extra 
conservatism for the innaccuracies of your on-the-fly blending) until the 
depth is shallow enough to switch to mix 3.  Then keep following 'till 
you can switch to 100% oxygen.

Please spare me the arguments that this is too much task loading in a 
stressful situation, blah, blah, blah....it's not as difficult as you 
might think (if you've been a good boy or girl and have practiced 
practiced practiced), and if it's still too much task loading, then your 
cranial processor is probably not powerful enough (or there's a bug in 
the programming) to be rebreather diving in the first place.

As intellectually stimulating as all this is, it has virtually no 
practical value for a well-designed rebreather - because it is INCREDIBLY 
unlikely that it will ever come to this.  In 160+ hours of rebreather 
diving, I have had a total of 2 sensor failures - both were manufacturing 
defects, so both were evident the moment I got below 10 feet - a very 
simple dive abort.  But let's say I've been lucky.  Let's say the 
probability of an O2 sensor failure during the dive (I've never had one 
like this) is one in 50 hours.  With three sensors, that means the 
probability of losing all three is is one in 125,000 hours of diving.  
But it will never come to this because the minute the first one fails, 
you abort the dive.

O.K., I've wasted enough bandwidth for now....

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