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Tom, the Odessey units (two) we saw at DEMA were not divable units. It was displayed in what can only be described as the worst piece of marketing I have ever seen and in fact would lead anyone to the same conclusion that I expressed to Volker. I have the literature and there is a technical Odessey unit. I don't know if it really exists except on paper. As far as safety is concerned I know what the literature claims it will do in the event of failure and other claims of reliability. How many diver-hours have been put on the unit to substantiate the claim of safest on the market? Compared to say, Draeger or Bio-Marine? Having the fewest number of working parts, no O2 sensor, mix your own nitrox before you dive it, passive system does not per se make it the safest system. If you mean it is the most dumb proof because of these factors and that in itself gives it an edge in safety- that is debatable. Features of a rebreather that would increase safety include countermeasures that the diver could take to overcome system failure that would result in a safe return to the surface. Depending upon the system to take the countermeasures for you (as in the case of the Odessey) would be a lesser option. Further, if the technical Odessey is structured in the same manner as the recreational unit, not just larger scrubber and gas supply, then it would not be a safer unit than the BioMarine, Draeger or CisLunar systems. I enjoyed talking to you at DEMA. I stand corrected. Looking like a POS is not the same as being a POS. I'd have to dive it to see. Rod On Wed, 24 Jan 1996, IANTD wrote: > Dan and Rod > > Hey guys lets keep it clean. > I wrote Rod a private E mail where I expressed he had not dives the > odessey. It is not attractive but it is a safe unit. In fact for most > recreational divers the passive unit is likely to be a safer unit for > thier use. The odessey does not meet all the capabilities of a fully > closed unit for technical divers. > > The Odessey is not a peice of shit. I own one so thinkI know it's > poentential. > > On the other hand it is rather childish to invite some one to fight > when you disagree with them. I hope we can be civilized in our > interactions. To me fighting is like war it is done to the point you > win or come back on your shield thus one should not be so quick to > challenge folks to physcial confortation. > > Please guys keep the opnions(Rod) as such with out abuse of something > you have not used and (Dan) do not go around inviting people to enter a > war with you unless you really think the idea is worth dying for > because fights can lead to permanenbt injury, and even death and I do > not think anyone here is that serious about simnple things in life that > will prove or disapprove there true value with time. > > We all need the freedom to express opnions and each should be respected > for their opnions even if we adamatly disagree with them. If we can do > that we will improve all areas of our lives and diving. > Tom > Tom > You wrote: > > > >Rod, > >You want to try and explain what you are talking about? Even the other > > >rebreather companies consider the Odyssey to be the among the safest > and > >best available. > > > >And where the fuck do you get off with making a comment like this? > >You sure as hell had nothing like this to say at DEMA, so why the > tough talk > >now from the safety of your computer? > > > >I'd be amazed if you can come up with either an intellectual > discussion of > >rebreather advantages/disadvantages, to compare the various > rebreathers at > >DEMA (clearly you can't or you would not make STUPID ASSININE comments > like > >you just have), or if you would would walk up to me and say shit like > this > >in person. > > > >Probably this was your shot at sounding like you know > something....well, you > >sound like a moron this time. > > > >I have no problem with someone disagreeing with me, but do it the way > you > >would in person....if you talked like that to me in person, you'd be > close > >to a hospital visit. > >Dan > > > >>Don't make me laugh. The Odessey was the biggest piece of shit on the > > >>floor- bar none. Rod > >> > >>On Tue, 23 Jan 1996, Dan Volker wrote: > >> > >>> If you went to Tek or DEMA, and checked out each of the rebreather > systems, > >>> you would have no doubt that only one has emerged as a "SAFE" > unit...this > >>> was the RBC Odyssey. This will be born out by the fallout in the > next 6 > >>> months. For the moment, check out the Odyssey pages at > >>> http://www.gate.net/~dlv/odyssey > >>> with Netscape, Microsoft Internet Explorer, or with the "new" > compuserve > >>> browser. If you have AOL or Prodigy, complain to them! > >>> Dan Volker > >>> SOUTH FLORIDA DIVE JOURNAL > >>> "The Internet magazine for Underwater Photography and mpeg Video" > >>> http://www.florida.net/scuba/dive > >>> 407-683-3592 > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to > `techdiver@terra.net'. > >>> Send subscription/archive requests to > `techdiver-request@terra.net'. > >>> > >> > >> > >Dan Volker > >SOUTH FLORIDA DIVE JOURNAL > >"The Internet magazine for Underwater Photography and mpeg Video" > >http://www.florida.net/scuba/dive > >407-683-3592 > > > >-- > >Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@terra.net'. > >Send subscription/archive requests to `techdiver-request@terra.net'. > > > > -- > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@terra.net'. > Send subscription/archive requests to `techdiver-request@terra.net'. >
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