Hi Andy, > If you are forced to pull your deep stops on the Helium mix instead of > non-helium you could end up with a significantly longer decompression. > Wind and wave action, as well as concern of hypothermia often limit > practical decompression times. I have to disagree with you here. I know that, by looking only at neo-haldanian conceptions of decompression practice, what you just stated is very sound. However, I am of the increasing belief that these conceptions inadequately describe the sorts of things that increase or decrease probability of DCI. For example, as a decidedly non-authority figure who has no business espousing this stuff, it is in my opinion that several additional deep decompression stops on bottom mix, not accounted for by the deco algorithm (i.e., calculate deco as if you did not make these stops at all), would DECREASE the probability of DCI (whereas the neo-Haldanian view would suggest an increase in DCI probability). More specific to the discussion at hand, I also believe the difference in DCI probability if one had to do the "required" deep stops on bottom gas instead of intermediate deco gas is miniscule compared to the variability induced by our chaotic physiology. Compartment-based models of decompression tend to give people the idea that it's better to get the hell out of deep water quickly and onto a decompression gas quickly. Quite frankly, I think this idea is what has gotten a lot of people bent. The compartment-based models are designed to minimize the *formation* of bubbles. Trouble is (as we all know) the bubbles are always there after a decompression dive. Decompression should instead be conducted in a manner that minimizes the *growth* of bubbles (or, conversely, maximizes the dissolution of bubbles). This means a greater emphasis on deep stops, and a relatively lesser emphasis on what diluent gas is breathed at what depth. Besides, the deep stops are much shorter anyway, so their contribution to the absorbtion and elimination of dissolved gas molecules is probably not as substantial as their contribution to preventing bubble growth. > Apparently, you consider this position flawed as you don't agree with the concept of > accelerated decompression by switching inert gases. I am not qualified to judge the > validity of your viewpoint, but I have not seen anyone else challenge the concept > therefore I would like the input from other members of the list, possibly referring me to > specific studies AGAINST accelerated decompression. I'm not entirely clear about how you are defining "accelerated decompression". If you simply mean switching from a lighter gas to a heavier gas during the course of decompression, then I think most of us (including George, who decompresses on nitrogen/oxygen mixtures following trimix dives) would agree that gas switching on decompression is beneficial. What we might disagree on is the magnitude of importance of this particular aspect of decompression diving relative to the importance of other aspects of decompression diving. As for specific studies, there are a couple (I don't have them right now, but I can get them for you if you like). Ask Chris Parrett for a copy of Weinke's bibliography. Other than that, I can only offer you the wisdom I have acquired over many hundreds of decompression dives, most successful, some not-so-successful. Aloha, Rich Richard Pyle deepreef@bi*.bi*.ha*.or* ******************************************************************* "WHATEVER happens to you when you willingly go underwater is COMPLETELY and ENTIRELY your own responsibility! If you cannot accept this responsibility, stay out of the water!" *******************************************************************
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