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Date: Sun, 7 Jan 1996 13:19:04 -0800
From: "George M. Irvine III" <gmiiii@in*.co*>
Subject: offshore ice flow diving
To: JimH720113@ao*.co*
Cc: techdiver@terra.net


  OK, Jim, let's hear how to do it (the ice flow part). If you 
don't think I know how to do the rest, you need to ask around. 
If you just want a pissing contest, you just hit paydirt.

   So let's hear it? I am tired of hearing people who have no 
idea what they are talking about run their mouths, like you 
about the Hogarth crap - when you can walk the walk, you can
start to talk. In the meantime, tell us some postive information,
that you do know about.

   In the meantime, when you or anyone else on this list, or
any other list can tell me why doing things properly is so
freakin out of the question, I'll listen. Tell me where the
merrits of sloppy, poorly thought out gear lie, tell me 
why diving deco gas on your back is smart, tell me why deep 
air is smart, etc. Show me where I am wrong, Jim?

   How do you deal with moving ice in a dive operation? I am sure
you have the answer, since you are doing it. How do you prevent 
damage to the ship? How do you preplan for need to move the ship?
Who in your safety crew jumps down to warn the divers? What kind 
of marker do you set when you move. What kind of transmission device
is held by the dive team. Who in the dive team is responsible for
accounting for the rest when the ship moves? When fog sets in, what 
special procedures apply? What apparatus do you use to quick release
the boat - similar to a tuna chumming operation, a remote pelican?
Where is your float array set for a quick release? What type of 
signalling beacon is included in the float array that you pitch? Similar
to a longliners' rig? Is it radar reflective? Is it high enough and
does it put out a large enough "target" that a ship bearing down
on your divers will yeild? Or do you live boat the wreck and use the
radio? How do you warn your dive team when a tanker shows up running
on a casette tape and  the whole crew is watching tv and the captain 
only speaks Dutch?

 In other words, in stead of being a resentful little smart ass,
why don't you make an effort to share  some info like I do. By
the way, if you don't like my information - delete it, or buy 
a good mailer that will filter it out. If you feel you need to straighten
me out, do it on the strength or weakness of the facts, not on some
weak-kneed "personal preference", it's cool-to-be-a-fool line of reasoning.
- G (who else)

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