Regarding the several questions about CO2 and hemoglobin: > Is CO2 removed only as dissloved molecules in the blood? > Haemoglobin does not bind CO2, only O2 and CO. > CO2 is dissolved in the blood liquid as H2CO3 (Carbonic acid) Hemoglobin removes CO2 to a small extent (15 to 25% of total CO2) in the form carbaminohemoglobin (CO2HHb). Most CO2 remains dissolved in blood, reacting with water to form first carbonic acid, but then rapidly dissociating into bicarbonate. > you might just have a tendency to saturate hemoglobin with O2, > inhbiting (to a limited extent) its ability to carry CO2 out of the > tissues. Hemoglobin contains an iron group called heme, and a protein called globulin. It has four iron atoms that each loosely bind one oxygen molecule, therefore each hemoglobin molecule has room for four atoms of oxygen. CO2 bonds with the protein subunit unlike oxygen so they do not ordinarily compete for sites and can be carried simultaneously. Note the qualifier 'ordinarily '. There are particular instances, but I do not believe they relate here. > I've tried to get a handle on the effects of elevated inspired > PPO2 on satuaration of hemoglobin. At one atmosphere, about 97% of oxygen is carried in combined form with hemoglobin called oxyhemoglobin (Hb-O2), the rest dissolved in blood. That means that at sea level with no increased pressure exposure at all, your hemoglobin has almost all the O2 it can hold (almost totally saturated already). > is it possible that the O2 is causing and acidic "rush" in our > system...? I'm not acquainted with your term 'acidic rush'. O2 is a main remover of hydrogen ions (H-) that build up 'acidity'. This occurs in the electron transport chain of respiration. That's why, without enough 'aerobic' metabolism during intense exercise lactic acid builds up, but that is another story... Regarding conjecture that pCO2 increases merely with depth: There are several parts to understanding this. First, it is not true that diving deeper, by itself, increases pCO2 in a diver's body. You do not produce any more CO2 merely for being underwater. It's not like nitrogen that you are breathing in increased density with increased depth. You ordinarily, and again - note the qualifier 'ordinarily', produce the same amount of CO2, so pCO2 does not change with change in ambient pressure as does pN2 and pO2. It is also not true that the exercise of ordinary diving causes CO2 to build up in a diver's body in ordinary conditions. Your breathing speeds up during exercise to breathe off the excess and your blood has powerful buffers to control CO2 level. Increased CO2 with skip breathing and equipment dead space in helmets, full face masks, and rebreathers is another story, as is increased work of breathing at depth and increased gas density. These things may increase CO2 retention - another story for another time. > It would be ethically "difficult" to expose people to a possibly > harmful dose of whatever this phenonemon is. Been done. Read Kenneth Donald's 'Oxygen and the Diver'. Plus, with tek divers doing such marvelous things, we have a built-in ongoing and growing database. Keep up all your good work. Jolie Bookspan, Ph.D. Research physiologist in environmental physiology (exercise in heat, cold, altitude, and at depth). -------- It ain't so much what we don't know that gets us into trouble, it's what we know that ain't so. -Will Rogers
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