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Date: Mon, 1 Jan 1996 18:08:49 +0200
To: "George M. Irvine III" <gmiiii@in*.co*>
From: Mark Caney <Mark.Caney@cy*.co*.cy*>
Subject: Re: dive shop "cartels"
Cc: techdiver@terra.net
At 06:19 01/01/96 -0800, George wrote:
>
>        What will get us regulated is the teaching and promoting
>        of deep air diving, diving high PPO2's, and the dive 
>        industry (at lest South Florida) penchant for shoving
>        prospective students through dive courses as fast as they
>        can, holding out the "goal" of higher certification , like
>        the great "cave diving" merrit badge, or the gas courses.
>

George I agree with your point about high ppO2s and badges for badges sake. 

When "technical" training first crept across the Atlantic about seven years
ago I was at first resistant to it overall (being a Brit; we always at first
resist anything new, later we claim to have invented it). I was then
concerned because it seemed to be promoting deep air diving which has killed
a few people I know in the Red Sea in particular, where dive guides started
to believe that the rules of physics and physiology did not apply to them.

Guys there would routinely dive to 80 metres plus on air, and over 100m was
not uncommon. (330 feet in archaic units). This was all done with a single
80 ft3 tank and a computer with no planning, back-up or for that matter
buddy. Each year about six people die diving in the Red Sea, and always more
than half of them were Divemasters or Instructors doing deep dives. I having
been going down there for years running instructor courses and had just got
to the point were most of the people had to started to realise they were
being stupid when they started to hear about stuff going on in the States
where it was cool to go really deep again.

When I looked closer at what was being said, I realised the more serious
people were actually trying to go beyond the traditional recreational
envelope [air/no-deco/<40m/open water] but in a safe manner, which I have no
problem with. In particular, Menduno did a great job in promoting the
realistic viewpoints and filtering out the worst excesses of the crazy fringe.

In fact  we were using many of the principles of technical diving over in
Europe without the name, but I have to say you guys really refined it,
especially the cave community. (See, I nearly claimed we invented it).

We can't take the old viewpoint that "we must not offer training for deco
diving because that will encourage it" because people just try it out
without training and do it in a dangerous way. I think it is better to offer
training, but not to encourage divers to take the step out of the existing
envelope. There are very few I feel comfortable taking. I actually became an
instructor in all three agencies, not to collect badges, but to try to see
who had the best system. I am not entirely happy with any one but that is life.

>        what we need is for dive "professionals" to quit
>        pretending that there is some magic to gas "blending" 
>        or that some set of cleaning rules will protect people
>        from accidents. This is the kind of officious weenery
>        that has always plagued diving. 
>
There is no magic to gas blending or preparation for oxygen service but
there are certain rules or procedures that can be defined, otherwise you end
up with the type of degenerating compromises that Randy described recently.

I remember a case in Spain about ten years ago where there were a series of
diving accidents in one year, partly due to dubious practices on the part of
local dive schools. The government responded with a set of regulations which
were so restrictive all but one dive centre had to close down (they included
a requirement for an eight man chamber on site). In my experience, every
time government gets involved it is a mess.

The cave diving community is one of the best examples of a group that has
come up with a set of working procedures which have become like rules, and
in that sense they are self-regulating. That is what I am suggesting we
need. I have seen some very scary practices by people making nitrox, both
stores and individuals, and often it is just because they did not know they
were doing anything wrong.

I also dislike "officious weenery", but I dislike government intervention
too, and being blown through a compressor room wall even more.


Mark Caney
Scubex, Cyprus
Tel + 357-6-246680 (GMT + 2 hrs)

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