I would be surprised if anybody on a ride-on could beat me from the surface
to the Hinkel.

Trout

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lance Carlson" <lcarlson@n-*.co*>
To: "'Jess Armantrout'" <trout@ca*.co*>; "John E. Ivanic"
<ivanic@di*.ne*>; <cavers@cavers.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2000 1:39 PM
Subject: RE: read this gavin owners


> I think it is self-evident that the tool of choice for all the top gun's
is
> the Gavin.  If for no other reason that Trey, Trout, and the rest have
> pointed out it is a core component of the DIR system of Tools and attitude
> and it is proven, time and time again.  Who gives a crap if you can go to
> the henkel 1 min faster than the other guy (we all know who will be towing
> your ass out with the nose of your scooter buried in the mud).  Back to
the
> systematic component, if one takes a look at why the WKPP works and sets
> records time and time again...look to the aspect of team work not single
> heros with lightning fast scooters.......and effective team work requires
> the consolidation and streamlining of tools (dive gear) and attitudes.
>  Your buddy and support crew better darn well know your tools just as well
> as you do.  And it appears to me that if (and when) one of those break
down
> you have little choice but to leave it (no one likes towing a danforth
> anchor behind them).  I could be wrong but I choose to dive with the Big
> Boys who DIR and they dive Gavins.
>
> Lance
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jess Armantrout [SMTP:trout@ca*.co*]
> Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2000 9:11 AM
> To: John E. Ivanic; cavers@cavers.com
> Subject: Re: read this gavin owners
>
> Johnny Rotten is correct.  The Zepp is a blast to ride.  I had one of the
> big ones myself.  It will outrun a Gavin speed wise.  It will go upstream
> as
> he says and is indeed the scooter of choice if all you want to do is go in
> in a straight horizontal line in open water.  The story goes that Joseph
> Ruprecht, inventor and builder of the Aquazepp, built the first one to
> escape underwater from E. Germany to West, and for that, this scooter is
> perfect. But ask him:
>
> 1.  how much room he needs to turn 180 degrees.  Mine took roughly a
> football field's width.
> 2. Ask him how quickly it responds when you want to change depths.
> 3. Ask him kow many guys it takes him to carry it to the water.
> 4. Ask him how he knows when his prop has cut the line since this is a
ride
> on and his eyes are forward of the prop.
> 5. Ask him if he gets sick and tired of having to stop and reach back to
> switch between 12 and 24 volts (there is a lever that sits right about
> where
> your knees wind up and it gets bumped all the time...it is one of the two
> ways you change speeds).
> 6.  Ask him how he keeps up with a buddy since he only has 4 fixed speeds,
> not an infinitely variable amount such as is found on a variable pitch
> scooter.
> 7.  I am not 100% sure, but I thought the zepp did not have a clutch.
>  Maybe
> it does.  If not, ask him how he stops the prop when it sticks on.
> 8.  And finally, and this would be my favorite, ask him why Wakulla I used
> zepps and Wakulla II (tried to) used (poor) Gavin knockoffs.
>
> Ride-ons do not work, but at least he bought the best ride-on out there.
> Tell your friend it is not a mistake to buy shit, but try try to tell
> others
> it is "Da Bomb" really makes him look pretty stupid.
>
> Trout
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John E. Ivanic" <ivanic@di*.ne*>
> To: <cavers@cavers.com>
> Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2000 2:08 AM
> Subject: read this gavin owners
>
>
> > This post was sent to me by an ignorant idiot, that knows nothing atoll,
> > check out what he yapped on about the gavin scooters... please any
> > replies send to me as well.
> >
> > Regards
> > John
> >
>

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