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From: screwloo@is*.ne* (John Dunk)
To: trey@ne*.co* (Trey)
Cc: cavers@cavers.com, swhac@pc*.gu*.ne*
Subject: Re: cave lines
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 13:50:01 +0000
  I would certainly rather see the lines go to a direct ascent than be
cut further back than they already are.  Skill levels should have
nothing to do with how far back in the cave zones the permanent line
begins.=20
   If you believe visible lines are an enticement to untrained divers,
causing them to enter the cave zone when they otherwise would not,
then the ends need to be placed in the cave zone, not in open water.
How FAR back in the cave zone you begin them makes no real difference.
    If you believe that untrained divers are going to swim into the
cave zones regardless of the presence of the line, then the line
should begin in open water to give them the best possible chance of
surviving their stupidity.=20
   I wouldn't presume to say which of those beliefs reflect reality. I
would guess that it would depend on which untrained diver we're
talking about. For myself and my own personal safety, I'd rather have
a continuous, permanent  direct ascent line.  If I need to practice my
reel skills, I'll do it on my own time.
=20
   On Thu, 19 Oct 2000 13:19:27 -0400, you wrote:

>Guys, if you want to measure "experience" , knowledge or skill to =
determine
>how far to cut back the cave lines, none of those caves would be allowed=
 to
>have line in them with most of you diving.
>
>The lines need to go to a direct ascent.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Scott Hunsucker [mailto:swhac@pc*.gu*.ne*]
>Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 12:53 PM
>To: John Dunk
>Cc: cavers@cavers.com
>Subject: Re: cave lines
>

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