>
>   I was at Little River 3 days ago; at that time, there was a triangle
>junction with 3 legs.

Do you know how many 3 way junctions there are in Jackson Blue alone?  More 
than I have been able to keep up with.  Just because there are three lines 
there does not mean that it merits some "special" apparatus.  It is nothing 
more than a T, of sorts.

>   It seems to me that the large triangle is just a convenient way to
>anchor a 3-point line without gaps.

So now every time I lay line I should carry a bundle of these "large 
triangles" with me.  Lets see 9000' of line on the last series of dives, 6 
"3-way splits" that come to mind, damn I should order some of the gadgets, 
the line arrows and knots I put in must not be working.               In 
all actuality I am fucking with you John.

>    As to the placement of the permanent line, I think the current one
>is a good compromise.  It's out of sight of the entrance, so it
>doesn't "entice" OW divers to go where they're unqualified to be, yet
>it's conveniently placed to allow easy, rapid access to the cave for
>qualified divers.

Most qualified divers that I know that want "rapid access" in that cave do 
so w/o running a primary reel.  That is not to say that reels are not run 
on other dives, they just follow the ding marks out in LR.  Students on the 
other hand are running reels and developing the skills needed to become 
cave divers, living cave divers being preferred, and running a damn gap 
reel to the bottom of the cavern is not developing skills.

>I dive LR on a regular basis; it's close to home for
>me, and a good place to just get wet. I ran reels through the keyhole
>for years to where the old permanent line began. I CAN do it.. why
>should I HAVE to?

The world of cave diving does not center around your, or our for that 
matter, convenience.  You are skilled at running reels, it takes you an 
extra min to run that reel to the old point:  A student, who is building 
the experience, will spend several mins dealing with the complexities that 
develop, this is experience in the making.

>  I cave dive to see cave. If i want to exercise,
>I'll go to a gym.
>    A diver that reaches the point where the permanent line begins now
>has not been "enticed" by the presence of the line;he is already in
>the cave zone, and has decided to go on anyway, line or not. A
>permanent line with an end close to the visible light zone could save
>this idiot's life.

Agreed, but a line that is far enough back to make a student work and 
develop skills might just save the students life.
Scott Hunsucker

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