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From: trey@ne*.co* (Trey)
To: "Todd Baldi" <todd_baldi@ho*.co*>, <scottk@hc*.co*>,
    
Cc: <techdiver@aq*.co*>, <cavers@cavers.com>
Subject: Most Important Piece fo Equipment wasRe: Series of recent deaths
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 10:36:35 -0400



Todd, I do not "require" any workout regimen out of my
divers, I merely lead by example. It is pretty
embarrasing when  48 yer old guy can severely out gun
the 20-30 year old's in every measure of athletic
performance, stamina , strength fitness and look. I do
not have to do anything but take my shirt off to get
that point across, and remind them who never gets
cold, tired , injured or bent. They take it from
there.

Obviously,JJ and  my top guns are in the same category
as me. While other than JJ they are not all around
tops in every category, they all do what they do very
seriously. Many are marathon runners, Iron Man
triatheletes, sprint triatheletes, Masters swimmers,
or cyclists.

My main message and example is show up every day and
do something, no matter what, and that is what I have
done for my whole life, with even more intensity the
last ten years. Besides being the key to fitness, it
is the key to longevity and quality of life and health
in every regard.

I have no aches or pains, no problem doing anyting ,
no problem running or lifting weights with my 19 year
old son, no problem doing the Iron Man, etc. I can
still bench press more than twice my weight and run a
sub 11 second 100 yds. or do any distance swimning,
running or on the bike.

I guess you could say I effectively "require" fitness
since to do the dives I ask thes guys to do, it is
essential. Diving and especaily diving in the WKPP
seems to get people thinking fitness in every way.
Most no longer drink, obviously do not smoke, smoke
pot or use drugs, and most take fitness and health
very seriously.

Some of the girls on the team are the same: Dawn
Kernagis can kick some ass on a bike or a swim, and
Pina can run like a rocket forever. It really shows on
the dopler tests.

>George,
>
>I read a lot on the list and the WKPP website
regarding gear configuration
>but I rarely see any mention of the most important
piece of equipment, your
>body.
>
>I am familiar with your workout regimine through
private emails and some
>discussion on the list. Could you please give a
rundown on what the other
>WKPP divers do to maintain their shape.  Is there
some set workout rountine
>that you require for WKPP divers? Plus what training,
other than what is
>listed on your forms do you require your divers to go
through?
>
>Thanks,
>Todd
>
>>From: trey@ne*.co* (Trey)
>>To: "Scott" <scottk@hc*.co*>, "MHK"
<mhkane@pr*.ne*>
>>CC: "List - Technical Diver"
<techdiver@aq*.co*>, <cavers@cavers.com>
>>Subject: Re: Series of recent deaths
>>Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 15:22:22 -0400
>>
>>go to http://www.wkpp.org and then "Equipment" and
>>then the DIR gear config article - it is all there.
>>
>>The direct url is
>>http://www.wkpp.org/articles/Gear/newgeorge.html
>>
>>Try to understand it in its entirety.
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Scott <scottk@hc*.co*>
>>To: George Irvine <trey@ne*.co*>; MHK
>><mhkane@pr*.ne*>
>>Date: Thursday, August 10, 2000 3:01 PM
>>Subject: Fw: Series of recent deaths
>>
>>
>> >
>> >----- Original Message -----
>> >From: "Scott" <scottk@hc*.re*.co*>
>> >Newsgroups: rec.scuba
>> >Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2000 12:00 PM
>> >Subject: Re: Series of recent deaths
>> >
>> >
>> >> Its going to get worse before it gets better.
>> >>
>> >> The more people die, the louder We bitch, and
the
>>harder they argue and
>> >look
>> >> elsewhere for a place to put the blame.
Disclaimers
>>keep you out of court,
>> >> but
>> >> court isn't the only authority people are going
to
>>have to answer to.
>> >>
>> >> I am almost pissed off at Maffatone. What a
waste.
>>Everyone said shit like
>> >> "Oh, he died doing what he loved." Fuck that
>>bullshit. He died
>> >> traumatically, scared and alone. There was
nothing
>>glamorous about his
>> >> death. He drowned. Its was simply a fucking
waste
>>of a good man, and a
>> >> veteran. He was not only a feather in the cap of
>>his friends, he was a
>> >> feather in the cap of our country. As long as
>>people accept a *needless*
>> >> death like this, and justify it because he was
>>"doing what he loved", more
>> >> are doomed to follow. Its all in the mindset,
>>people. I didn't know the
>> >man,
>> >> and imagine it would be quite a privilege to
have
>>made his acquaintance.
>> >> Those of you who did know him, will miss him.
Those
>>of us who didn't know
>> >> him are glad we don't have the pain you do.
>> >>
>> >> And for what? I cant really find any good lesson
>>from this mans death.
>> >>
>> >> People who get pissed about the list "Reasons
for
>>you strokes to shut the
>> >> fuck up and listen", will have to get used to
the
>>idea of the existence of
>> >> the list, because it is growing exponentially.
Its
>>continued growth is fed
>> >> by greed, ego, stupid pride, and politeness.
>> >>
>> >> Scott
>> >>
>> >> "MHK" <mhkane@PR*.NE*> wrote in message
>> >>
>>news:8mup78$26n4$1@ne*.ne*.pr*.co*...
>> >> >
>> >> > Given that there have been a series of recent
>>tragedies, I hope everyone
>> >> > will take an extra minute or so prior to there
>>next dive and take a look
>> >> at
>> >> > there diving..  Hopefully you'll ask yourself,
is
>>there anything I can
>> >do
>> >> to
>> >> > make this dive safer.
>> >> >
>> >> > It seems, based upon the accounts that I have
>>reviewed, that most of
>> >these
>> >> > deaths were some experienced divers.
Complacency
>>kills, and I know we
>> >> like
>> >> > to have a bunch of fun on this NG and beat
each
>>other up now and again.
>> >> But
>> >> > no matter what side of the DIR coin you side
on,
>>please take a fresh
>> >look
>> >> at
>> >> > your diving and try to remain safe..
>> >> >
>> >> > The only remaining contribution these diver's
can
>>leave us with is that
>> >we
>> >> > can look at there mistakes and learn from
them.
>>Death is an unfortunate
>> >> > byproduct of our sport and should be looked at
as
>>a learning tool.  What
>> >> can
>> >> > be learned, and how can we avoid it from
>>happening again..
>> >> >
>> >> > My condoleseces to all the families that have
>>suffered, may they rest in
>> >> > peace..
>> >> >
>> >> > Stay safe....
>> >> >
>> >> > Regards
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>>
>>
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