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Mark Bush, This does not rise to the level of fraud, waste or abuse. tim mcmahon > -----Original Message----- > From: diving@mo*.co* [SMTP:diving@mo*.co*] > Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2000 8:49 AM > To: webmaster@US*.GO* > Cc: Timothy.McMahon@US*.GO* > Subject: One of your users is guilty of fraud, waste and abuse of > Government property. > > I received the message below which appears to be sent from a US Government > internet address. The sender, Timothy.McMahon, is accessing a technical > diving chat room using this government address. If this is not in line > with his official duties you should make his direct supervisor and section > supervisor aware of this activity. > > Mark Bush > > >From: Timothy.McMahon@US*.GO* > >To: diving@mo*.co* > >Subject: RE: "SCUBA Fight Club" "Internet Idiots" > >Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 06:44:49 -0400 > >X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) > > > >Your comments below: > > "If you freely advertise your own status as an intolerant, > >prejudiced, bigot > > on a medium like the internet you have to be AN INTERNET IDIOT > >concerning > > public etiquette and good manners. You have no credibility. You > >waste > > bandwidth. You in the diver chat networks and bulletin boards know > >who you > > are. Do the vast silent majority AND YOURSELVES a great favor. > >JOIN US!" > > > > are clearly an attack and as such you have shown yourself to be "AN > >INTERNET IDIOT". > > > > > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: diving@mo*.co* [SMTP:diving@mo*.co*] > >> Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2000 5:31 AM > >> To: techdiver@aq*.co*; cavers@cavers.com > >> Subject: RE: "SCUBA Fight Club" "Internet Idiots" > >> > >> I guess that I'm also a charter member of the SCUBA fight club. I took > >> the > >> YMCA's eight week survival (SCUBA) course in 1973. The instructor was > ex > >> US Navy. There were 16 students who started the course. At 16 years > old > >> I > >> was the youngest. The oldest student was 24. There was one female > >> student > >> because her boyfriend was Chris, the son of the owner of Harry's Dive > >> Shop. > >> > >> We did endless swimming and snorkeling laps of the Olympic pool at the > >> Metarie, Louisiana YMCA. I guess the conditioning lasted all of two > weeks > >> after the end of the course. > >> > >> Yes, the divemasters harrassed us when we were in the water. This was > >> thought to be necessary to "weed out those unfit for diving". It just > >> weeded out those who couldn't tolerate being harrassed. > >> > >> I remember that four of us at a time jumped into the deep end of the > pool > >> and took off all of our gear. We did an unescorted free acsent to the > >> surface while a divemaster stirred up our four sets of dive equipment > on > >> the bottom. We had to jump in, go down, sort out our equipment, and > put > >> on > >> the correct equipment before we could all come up. > >> > >> I can see the dive industries insurance companies having a collective > >> heart > >> attack if we proposed these training standards now. > >> > >> Of the 16 students only 12 finished the course. For the dropouts SCUBA > >> became "too hard" in reality for the dream that they had nurtured for > >> years. It was really a shame. In today's diver training environment > any > >> one of these young, fit, previously enthusiastic drop outs would be an > >> Instructor's dream student who would breeze through a beginner SCUBA > >> course. > >> > >> Our two checkout dives were on a scrap of coral reef out of Destin, > >> Florida. I think we went twice to 95 feet. > >> > >> In my first 10 dives I don't think we didn't dive any shallower than 65 > >> feet. I know that 6 of the first 10 dives in open ocean were to 90+ > feet, > >> two were cave dives to 100+ feet and two were nighttime cave dives > deeper > >> than 60 feet. > >> > >> We all had a watch, a depth gauge and a copy of the US Navy tables. > Some > >> of us had pressure gauges, some of us had "J" valves. We had 65 or 72 > >> cubic feet of air in steel tanks and we didn't have BCDs. We had "Mae > >> West" vests for emergency surface floatation. We had a lot of fun. We > >> planned our dives and dove the plan. We were divers. > >> > >> On the boat after my second dive I saw a guy who had been diving > without a > >> watch, depth gauge or pressure gauge get bent. He had a painful > shoulder > >> joint hit and right arm paralysis after his second dive. He had a > diving > >> license and had been trained but he wasn't a diver. HE WAS AN IDIOT! > >> > >> Today with scientific training methods, fabulous equipment, computer > >> assistance, and detailed technical knowledge free for the asking, WE > STILL > >> HAVE IDIOTS! Don't call them divers no matter what their license says. > >> > >> Idiots who dive come from all training environments and all training > >> organizations. Idiots even come from all areas of human endeavor. If > >> idiots choose to exercise their right to ignore the rules when diving > on > >> their own, you can't blame the training organization that tried so hard > to > >> teach good rules. > >> > >> Anyone who has been around the world and kept their eyes opened sees > good > >> people everywhere and bad people everywhere. Good and bad is a > function > >> of > >> the individual's free choice OR the perception of the observer and not > >> automatically of any race, religion, nationality, government, > occupation, > >> education or diver training organization. > >> > >> You seriously damage your own credibility when you PUBLICALLY attack > >> another person who dives (even if they are an idiot) and you render > your > >> own credibility null and void when you take on an entire diver training > >> organization. > >> > >> If you freely advertise your own status as an intolerant, prejudiced, > >> bigot > >> on a medium like the internet you have to be AN INTERNET IDIOT > concerning > >> public etiquette and good manners. You have no credibility. You waste > >> bandwidth. You in the diver chat networks and bulletin boards know who > >> you > >> are. Do the vast silent majority AND YOURSELVES a great favor. JOIN > US! > >> > >> > >
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