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Mr Bush, How is it any different than you using Mosaic Communications servers to spout off? Come on get a clue this is supposed to be for fun. Check your ego at the door and don't get so damn huffy about a nonissue. ps. A better email address to complain to might be abuse@th*.co*. I am sure it would make some overworked sysadmins day to hear you whine a little. --- Timothy.McMahon@US*.GO* wrote: > Mark Bush, > This does not rise to the level of fraud, waste or > abuse. > > tim mcmahon > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: diving@mo*.co* [SMTP:diving@mo*.co*] > > Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2000 8:49 AM > > To: webmaster@US*.GO* > > Cc: Timothy.McMahon@US*.GO* > > Subject: One of your users is guilty of fraud, > waste and abuse of > > Government property. > > > > I received the message below which appears to be > sent from a US Government > > internet address. The sender, Timothy.McMahon, is > accessing a technical > > diving chat room using this government address. > If this is not in line > > with his official duties you should make his > direct supervisor and section > > supervisor aware of this activity. > > > > Mark Bush > > > > >From: Timothy.McMahon@US*.GO* > > >To: diving@mo*.co* > > >Subject: RE: "SCUBA Fight Club" "Internet Idiots" > > >Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 06:44:49 -0400 > > >X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) > > > > > >Your comments below: > > > "If you freely advertise your own status as an > intolerant, > > >prejudiced, bigot > > > on a medium like the internet you have to be AN > INTERNET IDIOT > > >concerning > > > public etiquette and good manners. You have no > credibility. You > > >waste > > > bandwidth. You in the diver chat networks and > bulletin boards know > > >who you > > > are. Do the vast silent majority AND YOURSELVES > a great favor. > > >JOIN US!" > > > > > > are clearly an attack and as such you have shown > yourself to be "AN > > >INTERNET IDIOT". > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > > >> From: diving@mo*.co* > [SMTP:diving@mo*.co*] > > >> Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2000 5:31 AM > > >> To: techdiver@aq*.co*; cavers@cavers.com > > >> Subject: RE: "SCUBA Fight Club" "Internet > Idiots" > > >> > > >> I guess that I'm also a charter member of the > SCUBA fight club. I took > > >> the > > >> YMCA's eight week survival (SCUBA) course in > 1973. The instructor was > > ex > > >> US Navy. There were 16 students who started > the course. At 16 years > > old > > >> I > > >> was the youngest. The oldest student was 24. > There was one female > > >> student > > >> because her boyfriend was Chris, the son of the > owner of Harry's Dive > > >> Shop. > > >> > > >> We did endless swimming and snorkeling laps of > the Olympic pool at the > > >> Metarie, Louisiana YMCA. I guess the > conditioning lasted all of two > > weeks > > >> after the end of the course. > > >> > > >> Yes, the divemasters harrassed us when we were > in the water. This was > > >> thought to be necessary to "weed out those > unfit for diving". It just > > >> weeded out those who couldn't tolerate being > harrassed. > > >> > > >> I remember that four of us at a time jumped > into the deep end of the > > pool > > >> and took off all of our gear. We did an > unescorted free acsent to the > > >> surface while a divemaster stirred up our four > sets of dive equipment > > on > > >> the bottom. We had to jump in, go down, sort > out our equipment, and > > put > > >> on > > >> the correct equipment before we could all come > up. > > >> > > >> I can see the dive industries insurance > companies having a collective > > >> heart > > >> attack if we proposed these training standards > now. > > >> > > >> Of the 16 students only 12 finished the course. > For the dropouts SCUBA > > >> became "too hard" in reality for the dream that > they had nurtured for > > >> years. It was really a shame. In today's > diver training environment > > any > > >> one of these young, fit, previously > enthusiastic drop outs would be an > > >> Instructor's dream student who would breeze > through a beginner SCUBA > > >> course. > > >> > > >> Our two checkout dives were on a scrap of coral > reef out of Destin, > > >> Florida. I think we went twice to 95 feet. > > >> > > >> In my first 10 dives I don't think we didn't > dive any shallower than 65 > > >> feet. I know that 6 of the first 10 dives in > open ocean were to 90+ > > feet, > > >> two were cave dives to 100+ feet and two were > nighttime cave dives > > deeper > > >> than 60 feet. > > >> > > >> We all had a watch, a depth gauge and a copy of > the US Navy tables. > > Some > > >> of us had pressure gauges, some of us had "J" > valves. We had 65 or 72 > > >> cubic feet of air in steel tanks and we didn't > have BCDs. We had "Mae > > >> West" vests for emergency surface floatation. > We had a lot of fun. We > > >> planned our dives and dove the plan. We were > divers. > > >> > > >> On the boat after my second dive I saw a guy > who had been diving > > without a > > >> watch, depth gauge or pressure gauge get bent. > He had a painful > > shoulder > > >> joint hit and right arm paralysis after his > second dive. He had a > > diving > > >> license and had been trained but he wasn't a > diver. HE WAS AN IDIOT! > > >> > > >> Today with scientific training methods, > fabulous equipment, computer > > >> assistance, and detailed technical knowledge > free for the asking, WE > > STILL > > >> HAVE IDIOTS! Don't call them divers no matter > what their license says. > > >> > > >> Idiots who dive come from all training > environments and all training > > >> organizations. Idiots even come from all areas > of human endeavor. If > > >> idiots choose to exercise their right to ignore > the rules when diving > > on > > >> their own, you can't blame the training > organization that tried so hard > > to > > >> teach good rules. > > >> > > >> Anyone who has been around the world and kept > their eyes opened sees > > good > > >> people everywhere and bad people everywhere. > Good and bad is a > > function > > >> of > > >> the individual's free choice OR the perception > of the observer and not > > >> automatically of any race, religion, > nationality, government, > > occupation, > > >> education or diver training organization. > === message truncated === ===== Life What is life? It is the flash of a firefly in the night. It is the breath of a buffalo in the wintertime. It is the little shadow which runs across the grass and loses itself in the sunset. --Crowfoot, Blackfoot warrior and orator, 1890 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! 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