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Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2000 01:30:31 -0500
From: Brett Dodson/Linda Maddox <stelarlb@sw*.ne*>
Subject: Re: OZ 2000
To: ScottBonis@ao*.co*
Cc: cavers@cavers.com, techdiver@aq*.co*

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Hi Scott,
So I guess you are saying that socialism is not a theory based on the belief
that all, while contributing to the good of a community, are equal, none better
than the other, equally entitled to the same quality of care and protection that
the community can provide?  Let me know so I can inform the right people and get
them busy redefining history!  Socialism is not a singular "economic ideal" as
you put it, but, a theory which takes on different forms based on the stresses
applied to it (i.e. Marxian Socialism, Democratic Socialism, Christian
Socialism, etc. etc.).  Anyway one looks upon it,  all forms of the theory agree
in being opposed to uncontrolled capitalism (unregulated private ownership of
businesses for the sake of profit) and seek equality of opportunity for all
members of the community.   I reiterate, the military is set up on the theory of
socialism.  Now you think back to Poly Sci. 101 wherever you took it from;
Socialism is a theory, dictatorships are a form of government, totalitarianism
is a form of government, the military in the U.S. is not a form of government,
last I looked.  Get your facts straight and come clean with us. Your problem is
not with the theory of socialism or how it is run. You said so yourself and I
quote " ...the leadership of the military really has nothing whatever to do with
socialism".  So from now on if you want to call somebody a dictator or tyrant
just do it by name and don't try to take a cheap shot over my shoulder, don't
question my education, don't play semantics, or fuck with me.  I knew better
than to post that,  hell I don't even discuss politics with my mother-in-law
much less....
Brett

ScottBonis@ao*.co* wrote:

> In a message dated 7/14/00 6:40:46 PM, stelarlb@sw*.ne* writes:
>
> << Lest we forget the military in all nations both communist and
democratic.
> If
> you want a perfect example of socialism you need only look toward our
> own military.  If you must ask, the reasoning behind this is that all
> members are "on the same page" thus work together as a team when kicking a
> third world ass.
> Brett >>
>
> Hi Brett,
>
> I don't know where you received your education in political science, but I'm
> afraid that the military is definitely not an example of socialism.  A
> dictatorship, yes.  Totalitarianism, yes.  But socialism, no way.
>
> Socialism is an economic ideal that has been practiced (usually not too
> successfully) in the Eijido's in Mexico and the Kibbutz's in Israel, for
> example.  But the leadership of the military really has nothing whatever to
> do with socialism.
>
> Take care and safe diving,      Scott

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Hi Scott,
<br>So I guess you are saying that socialism is not a theory based on the
belief that all, while contributing to the good of a community, are equal,
none better than the other, equally entitled to the same quality of care
and protection that the community can provide?  Let me know so I can
inform the right people and get them busy redefining history!  Socialism
is not a singular "economic ideal" as you put it, but, a theory which takes
on different forms based on the stresses applied to it (i.e. Marxian Socialism,
Democratic Socialism, Christian Socialism, etc. etc.).  Anyway one
looks upon it,  all forms of the theory agree in being opposed to
uncontrolled capitalism (unregulated private ownership of businesses for
the sake of profit) and seek equality of opportunity for all members of
the community.   I reiterate, the military is set up on the theory
of socialism.  Now you think back to Poly Sci. 101 wherever you took
it from; Socialism is a theory, dictatorships are a form of government,
totalitarianism is a form of government, the military in the U.S. is not
a form of government, last I looked.  Get your facts straight and
come clean with us. Your problem is not with the theory of socialism or
how it is run. You said so yourself and I quote " ...the leadership of
the military really has nothing whatever to do with socialism".  So
from now on if you want to call somebody a dictator or tyrant just do it
by name and don't try to take a cheap shot over my shoulder, don't question
my education, don't play semantics, or fuck with me.  I knew better
than to post that,  hell I don't even discuss politics with my
mother-in-law
much less....
<br>Brett
<p>ScottBonis@ao*.co* wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>In a message dated 7/14/00 6:40:46 PM, stelarlb@sw*.ne*
writes:
<p><< Lest we forget the military in all nations both communist and
democratic.
<br>If
<br>you want a perfect example of socialism you need only look toward our
<br>own military.  If you must ask, the reasoning behind this is that
all
<br>members are "on the same page" thus work together as a team when kicking
a
<br>third world ass.
<br>Brett >>
<p>Hi Brett,
<p>I don't know where you received your education in political science,
but I'm
<br>afraid that the military is definitely not an example of socialism. 
A
<br>dictatorship, yes.  Totalitarianism, yes.  But socialism,
no way.
<p>Socialism is an <b>economic ideal</b> that has been practiced
(usually
not too
<br>successfully) in the Eijido's in Mexico and the Kibbutz's in Israel,
for
<br>example.  But <b>the leadership of the military really has
nothing
whatever to</b>
<br><b>do with socialism.</b>
<p>Take care and safe diving,     
Scott</blockquote>
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