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From: "Dave Grey" <grey@is*.ca*>
To: "David Blundell" <daveblundell@op*.co*.au*>,
     "Jess Armantrout"
Cc: <toddleonard@mi*.co*>, <techdiver@aq*.co*>,
    
Subject: Re: OzTek 2000
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 19:39:24 -0700
Speaking of big mouths.....is that Gilliam I smell on your breath ?????
Later,



----- Original Message -----
From: David Blundell <daveblundell@op*.co*.au*>
To: Jess Armantrout <armantrout@mc*.co*>
Cc: <toddleonard@mi*.co*>; <techdiver@aq*.co*>;
<cavers@cavers.com>
Sent: Monday, July 10, 2000 2:37 AM
Subject: Re: OzTek 2000


> I love you internet experts.
>
> WKPP here?????
>
> That biggest mouth on the net wouldn't come here,
>
> JJ, well like we all say, it would have been good to see him, but
obviously not
> this time.
>
> Don't come on with the crap about them not wanted here.
>
> The diving community, Stroke, DIR dickhead or whoever, wanted to see a
range of
> people, not one who bignotes himself on the net.
>
> JJ is more than welcome here.
>
> Brett wasn't even here.  Get your facts right.
>
> The people speaking at the show, "Americans & Australians" were all
> professional, polite and entertaining.
>
> Not like some we could mention.
>
> to sum up,
>
> Blow it out your Arse!
>
> Jess Armantrout wrote:
>
> > David,
> > Let me just say you are either very naive or an idiot; probably both.
Not
> > about TDI?  You obviously don't know Gilliam very well.  Things got
rushed?
> > You gotta be kidding me.  If it had been about things getting rushed,
they
> > could have dropped the "Spare Air" booth or the "Scuda" booth.  Leaving
JJ,
> > GUE and the WKPP out of a tech show kind of defeats the point of having
a
> > tech show, now doesn't it?
> >
> > If stories is what you want, Gilliam is your man.  If you want to learn
> > about how to tech dive, well, you really are going to be wasting your
time
> > and money.
> >
> > Trout
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: David Blundell [mailto:daveblundell@op*.co*.au*]
> > > Sent: Friday, July 07, 2000 1:35 AM
> > > To: toddleonard@mi*.co*
> > > Cc: techdiver@aq*.co*; cavers@cavers.com
> > > Subject: Re: OzTek 2000
> > >
> > >
> > > Todd,
> > >
> > > I appreciate your comments.
> > >
> > > It would have been great to hear from JJ.
> > >
> > > Unlike that other dickhead.
> > >
> > > As far as we are all concerned, and I know Richard is doing something
that
> > > no-one else will, is that a show is being put together for the
> > > divers in Aust.
> > >
> > > Shit happens, this ain't about TDI or who ever, and frankly we
> > > couldn't give a
> > > stuff.
> > >
> > > Sure maybe things could have been done differently, but I guess
> > > when you've
> > > got a million things to do and organize at the last minute
> > > sometimes things
> > > get rushed.
> > >
> > > Richard is a nice guy and friendly at that.  We go to these shows to
see
> > > people like JJ and others, but it ain't the end of the world if it
doesn't
> > > work out.  We are not interested in politics and bullshit.  Just
stories.
> > >
> > > Who cares if people disagree on things, isn't that a democracy
> > > about,. having
> > > the right to make your own choice.
> > >
> > > We (divers) would like these shows to continue, so more of you
> > > guys can come
> > > here.  Come to Australia to have fun, to see a beautiful country,
> > > one the size
> > > of the U.S but with only @ 20 million people in it.  A contrast
> > > to your home.,
> > > tell us your stories, your experiences and we share ours.
> > >
> > > Isn't that what this is all about.????????
> > >
> > > Leave all the bullshit and mudslinging to the telephones.
> > >
> > > That's all us divers here want.
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > > Dave.
> > >
> > > Todd Leonard wrote:
> > >
> > > > David, it's a bad trade... With JJ, you would have had the
> > > opportunity to
> > > > hear about some truly remarkable diving, and learn about the
impeccable
> > > > technique enabling that diving which can be applied to the
> > > benefit of all.
> > > >  By blocking him, well, now we all have the opportunity to hear
> > > and learn
> > > > about the "industry" yet again.  Yawn.  Even if one were to overlook
the
> > > > apparent dishonesty involved in this little episode, what
conclusions
> > > > should be drawn about those who knowingly opt for such a facade?
> > > >
> > > > What will be learned from BG's "stories"?  Real diving is _so_ much
more
> > > > interesting than bombastic tales of foolish near misses.
> > > >
> > > > Hint: bring lots of beer to the conference -- it's always best
> > > to conceal
> > > > the true source of one's stupor.
> > > >
> > > > - Todd
> > > >
> > > > --- David Blundell <daveblundell@op*.co*.au*> wrote:
> > > > > Thank you for your comments  Scott.
> > > > >
> > > > > I didn't organize the show, I just pay my money to go.
> > > > >
> > > > > Anyway BG has been around and can tell some stories,
> > > regardless of what
> > > > > some may thinks.
> > > > >
> > > > > Sure a lot of people would have liked to seen JJ, but he is not
coming
> > > > > unfortunately this time.
> > > > >
> > > > > like I've said time and time again we would like to see him.
> > > Take it up
> > > > > with
> > > > > TDI if you have a problem with them.  Not us, we just wanna
> > > see a show.
> > > > >
> > > > > I went to the US, 31 hrs of travelling to see a show etc.
> > > > >
> > > > > Melbourne, 30 mins from my home.  So as you can see it is much
cheaper
> > > > > for me to stay here and support the shows here.
> > > > >
> > > > > I hope that all the bullshit stops, the flaming and so on.
> > > > >
> > > > > The welcome from the divers here is always open to those overseas.
> > > > >
> > > > > If I organized a show (heaven forbid)  then maybe different people
> > > > > could, would and might come.  Who knows.
> > > > >
> > > > > Richard has taken the time and effort to do it when no-one else
would.
> > > > > So we
> > > > > want to support him, because otherwise there would be no
> > > show.  Simple.
> > > > >
> > > > > Is that unreasonable?
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards
> > > > >
> > > > > Dave.
> > > >
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